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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Martian,

The part you quoted may have been questioning whether or not Surfeur's contributions followed the rules. But in the context of his whole post it sure seemed to me that it was part of a statement saying that Surfeur was indeed not following the rules. That's what prompted my protest.

And the last part of my post was not directed at you, just an explanation to why I reacted.

As you are prone to do and usually in an argumentative, combative and with the most negative view you can think of.

Skip



Am I missing something? Where is Gunnar being any of these things? He merely stated that he also took your comments to be a statement rather than a question.

To be honest 'you are very clearly ignoring the rules' sound like a statement to me too; not a question.

Maybe in the past Gunnar has acted in the way you describe, I don't know, but in this instance I see no evidence of that and therefore view your comments as an unprovoked attack.
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To quote myself from the Forum Rules Update topics :

"I've decided to wait and see if something will change for more than 2 weeks. If yes thats great, if not I'm gone to better place."

This message was post 20 days ago and nothing had change at all. I'm just tired to read the constant aggressivity and never ending conflict here. So it time to do what I've said and go somewhere else.
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Uh Huh, i see a lot of manipulation of the database outside the rules in your list, Yves. But then i am not surprised. You are creating global problems with your Contributions because you are very clearly ignoring the rules, as you manipulate things your way. Or is that your sorting of James Bond Films.

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Skip, you can turn and twist it as you like, this is what you have written.

If moderation worked here a moderator would have told you that your post was attacking another user and removed it.

Another solution to stop this unnecessary discussion would be you saying: 'Sorry, I was wrong' but I guess that will just remain wishful thinking from my side and never happen.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Let's see I asked a question in that post. One that has been answered by several people but not by the user to whom it was addressed, there fore i don't have an apology to offer. Had he answered I would have apologized, but unfortunately as is common around here everybody and his brother usually decides that just have to jump in, like YOU did. why don't you just let a conversation , instead of constantly jumping in and making insulting and inflammatory remarks.

The question was asked of Yves back on page 3, he never did answer the question himself, so what transpired after that was three pages attacks led by Tim, with his first unnecessary post. It is particularly interesting is that upon until Tim feltb he could take a shot, he had not made a sing;e comment in that thread, nor had guunnar or even YOU sugar. So, the motive becomes highly suspect. Is your sole purpose to inflame. And to beperfectly honest, had not yves dedcided to start his usual rant against profiler, this discussion was over on page 2.

Again my apologies to AESP

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And to beperfectly honest, had not yves dedcided to start his usual rant against profiler, this discussion was over on page 2.
Skip


And if you and the Martian had chosen to ignore Yves "usual rant against profiler", this discussion would have been over on page 2. 
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I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been closed down yet.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Skip, they're working things out in a mostly civil way - please don't add fuel.

Doc:

I am sorry, i will not put up with any sort of attack form ANYONE. Gunnar can read wharever he wishes, he has no idea what is in the mind of any user, jhe cannot see body language, facial expressions or the like. yet he pretends he can judge what another user means and makes comments which are not designed to solve anything civilly, but are designed to inflame and aggravate.

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Well, Skip, since none of us can see body language, facial expression or the like, all we can do is judge the posts from what they actually say. That's what we all do, you included. There is no other way.

So, no, I cannot judge what is in your - or anybody else's - mind. That's why it is important that everybody try to express themselves in a manner that does not require any other skills than reading. Maybe some people need to slow down just a tad and make sure that their posts say what they intended them to say. That might eliminate a lot of aggravation...
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Quoting GSyren:
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Martian,

The part you quoted may have been questioning whether or not Surfeur's contributions followed the rules. But in the context of his whole post it sure seemed to me that it was part of a statement saying that Surfeur was indeed not following the rules. That's what prompted my protest.

And the last part of my post was not directed at you, just an explanation to why I reacted.

At second look, I understand where you are coming from.  I asked you to read my post in the context it was written, but failed to do the same with Skip's post.  My bad.
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And if you and the Martian had chosen to ignore Yves "usual rant against profiler", this discussion would have been over on page 2. 

Wait, wait, wait.  I did ignore his rant against profiler, it was his rant aimed at users, who vote on contributions, that I took exception to.  He said...

"This is why I spoke of tyrannic system. When we look at contribution statistics, we have people who work and contribute data, and people who prefer to send votes to the face of workers, nit picking on details to give them more importance, than speak of dvdprofiler spirit."

Had he left the bolded part out, I wouldn't have said a thing.  Surfeur, by his own admission, does not like to vote.  If he would just leave it at that, I wouldn't care, but he doesn't.  Instead, he makes condescending and disparaging remarks about those that do vote.  I am sorry, but I just can't let that go.

Beyond that, if you look at Surfeur's first post in this thread, it was aimed at me...wonder why he doesn't get chastised?  Had he chosen to ignore my post, none of this would have happened. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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Beyond that, if you look at Surfeur's first post in this thread, it was aimed at me...wonder why he doesn't get chastised?  Had he chosen to ignore my post, none of this would have happened. 

Looks to me that only "This is your point of view" was aimed at you, and the rest was a rant against the Profiler community as a whole. "This is your point of view" doesn't seem like a 'chastiseible'  opinion.

But other than that, I can understand your frustration.
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DROP IT, Gunnar. It's over

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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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And if you and the Martian had chosen to ignore Yves "usual rant against profiler", this discussion would have been over on page 2. 

Wait, wait, wait.  I did ignore his rant against profiler, it was his rant aimed at users, who vote on contributions, that I took exception to.  He said...

"This is why I spoke of tyrannic system. When we look at contribution statistics, we have people who work and contribute data, and people who prefer to send votes to the face of workers, nit picking on details to give them more importance, than speak of dvdprofiler spirit."

Had he left the bolded part out, I wouldn't have said a thing.  Surfeur, by his own admission, does not like to vote.  If he would just leave it at that, I wouldn't care, but he doesn't.  Instead, he makes condescending and disparaging remarks about those that do vote.  I am sorry, but I just can't let that go.

Beyond that, if you look at Surfeur's first post in this thread, it was aimed at me...wonder why he doesn't get chastised?  Had he chosen to ignore my post, none of this would have happened. 


Well, as in all things, it takes two ( and in this case more) to tango.  It just goes back and forth and around and around and in the end nothing is resolved.

It's just a waste of everyone's time who has to wade through all this junk in the off-chance that there might be something useful.

Such is the environment that we've created for ourselves, because we, collectively, just cannot ignore the foibles of others.
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting hal9g:
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And if you and the Martian had chosen to ignore Yves "usual rant against profiler", this discussion would have been over on page 2. 

Wait, wait, wait.  I did ignore his rant against profiler, it was his rant aimed at users, who vote on contributions, that I took exception to.  He said...

"This is why I spoke of tyrannic system. When we look at contribution statistics, we have people who work and contribute data, and people who prefer to send votes to the face of workers, nit picking on details to give them more importance, than speak of dvdprofiler spirit."

Had he left the bolded part out, I wouldn't have said a thing.  Surfeur, by his own admission, does not like to vote.  If he would just leave it at that, I wouldn't care, but he doesn't.  Instead, he makes condescending and disparaging remarks about those that do vote.  I am sorry, but I just can't let that go.

Beyond that, if you look at Surfeur's first post in this thread, it was aimed at me...wonder why he doesn't get chastised?  Had he chosen to ignore my post, none of this would have happened. 


Well, as in all things, it takes two ( and in this case more) to tango.  It just goes back and forth and around and around and in the end nothing is resolved.

It's just a waste of everyone's time who has to wade through all this junk in the off-chance that there might be something useful.

Such is the environment that we've created for ourselves, because we, collectively, just cannot ignore the foibles of others.

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DROP IT, Gunnar. It's over

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

Sorry, but if we're down to non-arguments that's as good as anything else.
Or maybe not...
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