Green book, red book --) colorblind person --) 2 Grey books

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Green book, red book --) colorblind person --). Grey books

No more contributing for you!  LOL!

You are taking the fun out of everything....................................

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Would you ever say that these two items are the same thing:

Green book
Red book

If the category they were being entered into was a general category of books, as make-up is, then yes, I would say that those two items are the same thing because they are both 'books'.

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See how that little adjective makes them two completely different things?????   

Actually, the adjective does not make them two completely different things.  A book is a book, regardless of the color or content.  By the same token, a make-up artist is a make-up artist, regardless of the adjective used to describe them.

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The answer, of course, is no.  You want to pick and choose the ones that you have a personal preference for.  I get it!

You really should stop making assumptions as you have no idea what you are talking about.  With the exception of the big three plus one...Director, Writer, Executive Producer plus Creature Designer, I have zero interest in crew credits so I am not picking and choosing based on personal preference.

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Problem is, that's not what the Rules tell us to do!

Where was this blind loyalty to the rules when they disallowed all the OMB credits?  As I recall, you were quite happy to bend the rules back then.  I guess it's o.k. to do when it's something you feel belongs in the main database, but not when it is something you don't care about.

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Based on this logic, we can enter all of these real life roles from Avatar: co-producer, associate producer, assistant producer, first assistant producer, second assistant producer, visual effects producer, visual effects line producer, prototype line producer, digital executive producer, associate vfx producer, bidding producer, assistant director, music editor, musical director, dialogue director, lighting director, second unit director, pipeline technical director, layout technical director, lighting technical director, motion capture technical director, fx technical director, junior technical director, assistant "any listed crew role"", associate "any listed crew role", foley editor, adr editor, dialogue editor, creature art director, etc, etc, etc.

'Make-up by' is a general credit given to the people who apply make-up.  No matter what adective is used to describe the type of make-up applied, it is still an application of make-up.

The same cannot be said for any of your examples.  'Producer' is a specific credit given for a specific job.  'Associate Producer' is a specific credit given for a different specific job.  'Editor' and 'Edited by' are specific credits given for a specific job.  'Foley Editor' is a spefic credit given for a different specific job.  'Director' and 'Directed by' are specific credits given for a specific job.  '2nd Unit Director' is a specific credit given for a different specific job.

For 'general' credits, I have no problem allowing for the inclusion of credits that indicate the type of job done.  That is my opinion.  If people agree, that is fine.  If they don't, that is fine too.

I'm afraid I disagree with you hal - the binary approach DOES NOT work - and there any many who agree with me.

I won't go into the reasons why since I've addressed these topics and explained my rationale many times before.

I know that there are others who agree with your stance also so we need to agree to disagree.

Until I get a clarification from Ken or invelos, I will continue to contribute as I have, following the rules to the best of my ability. Others can do the same.

Kathy:

The only reason the Binary approach does not work is for two reasons, you fail to  comprehend the underlying premise upon which the Rules were structured despite repeated explanations and additionally instead of understanding that foundation you busy looking for data which you anmd others want to include but is not within the platform at this time and you want it...NOW. I won't bother to explain my reaction to the i want it NOW concept, but for reference sere Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. The BINARY approach absolutely works, it was designed to make it easy for ALL users to enter ALL data in every instance without fail. If you understand that premise, then whatt would happpen is the questions regardinmg this kind of tripe would fall of to about 1% of the present levels. You can't have a system that works, and this was designed to work and WILL work except for certain people, when you have users all flying off in their own direction and submitting whatever it is that they want. We have been down that road alread Kathy, its a true shame you weren't here back then; only then might have an understanding of the premise behind the Rules. But the Binary approach will  aBSOLUTELY WORK 99% OF THE TIME

Skip do not presume to know what I do or do not think. I will respond to Hal in my own words and do not need you to explain my rationale for what I do.