Did I say I would have to vote no to you? I am saying in such a situation where Someone (ANYONE) were to attempt that.. I would definitely vote no,

You and I are in different regions... I don't think I ever seen a contribution of yours. So not sure why you thought I was talking about you in particular. All I did was make a general statement on what you said.

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The overview has no intrinsic connection with the movie.
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To try and equate an overview with things like runtime and sound tracks is silly.

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Thanks !  Knowing now how you rate my opinion, I think the discussion is finished.

Let me see if I understand this...it is o.k. for you to question people's intelligence, imply that they don't live in the real world and, generally mock their opinions, but he can't call this silly? 

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but he can't call this silly? 

He can . Just I do not want to discuss with him anymore. And people who disagree with my opinion can also not discuss with me and leave me alone with my stupid ideas.

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Ok, does that mean the discussion is over because nobody agrees with you or is willing to change her/his mind/opinion?

Not at all. Only with insulting people. That is why I did not answer in this thread to a user that compared me in the past with a man of Vichy, and shall no more discuss with those who consider me as a silly person and write it. But I'm happy to discuss with most other users even if we disagree. I think those discussions are also useful for Ken to understand what different users think and want.

Without that sort of discussion, I'm not sure that Ken would have written that about names:

Ideally any replacement system will also improve upon the current system

- Eliminate the birth year in the online database
- Eliminate the CLT as a name determination tool
- Allow entry of properly accented and formatted names
- Require no changes to existing profiles when an actor changes names (e.g actress gets married)

That is why I find it important to say what I think.

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Ok, does that mean the discussion is over because nobody agrees with you or is willing to change her/his mind/opinion?

Not at all. Only with insulting people. That is why I did not answer in this thread to a user that compared me in the past with a man of Vichy, and and shall no more discuss with those who consider me as a silly person and write it. But I'm happy to discuss with most other users even if we disagree. I think those discussion are also useful for Ken to understand what different users think and want.

Without that sort of discussion, I'm not sure that Ken would have written that :

Ideally any replacement system will also improve upon the current system

- Eliminate the birth year in the online database
- Eliminate the CLT as a name determination tool
- Allow entry of properly accented and formatted names
- Require no changes to existing profiles when an actor changes names (e.g actress gets married)

That is why I find it important to say what I think.

I understand what you are doing but you have to admit that, as soon you run out of arguments or you are proven wrong, you change the subject and go to something else that you want changed. Your argument about the running time made no sense, you should go back and read it again.

I am pretty sure almost everybody here would love to have the "correct" names of the actors/crew members in the database and have them all linked together but first that would require program changes that Ken, maybe or maybe not, has in mind. If we just go by what we think is the correct name we will run into lots of ping-ponging of data and also incorrect data. I am not going to continue the names debate here since it's way off topic and was already discussed over and over again.

The overview rule on the other hand is clear cut and there is no better way of doing it because we copy what's on the printed cover and anything else is speculation and will result in ping-ponging data. That's just my humble opinion and everybody here is entitled to have her/his own opinion and disagree or agree with me.

Dirk

PS I think you overrate the use of the word "silly" Yves.

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Yves,

For what it's worth, I agree with you.  I think too many people who are concerned with "as credited" have taken over the forum.  I, too think we should be more concerned with the actual movie and people who make them.

While some of us are concerned with 'as credited', we aren't the ones who made the rules.  If you, the general you, have a problem with it, then convince Ken to change the rule.  Since I can do whatever I want in my local, it really doesn't matter what the rules say.  I will, as always, contribute based on what they say, and change my local to match my preferences.

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Why is it that you always change to something else when you realize you got yourself stuck?

And why is that intelligent, it's called doing your own thing. How do you know that it wasn't done on purpose, let's say as a joke? Why would you use that rule where it states "When there is no overview......"

Umm DarkKnight, Pete is absolutely correct. seeing as how this thread is about Overviews NOT Running Time whoever intorduced Runtime into this discussion to tryand justify something relating ws the one whoe swerved off track. But runtime is a piece of data that is contained in two places, ususally, the back cover and the disc itself and our Rules specify the disc itself, if there is a discrepancy between the disc and the Cover.. The Overview is typically only contained in one locatiopn, the back cover.

Now if i understand your other comment about Pete's knowing something relative to this Rule. He was one of the members that was instrumental in the writing of the Rule and ken ratified it, so I think he has a leg up on you in that regard.

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Why is it that you always change to something else when you realize you got yourself stuck?

And why is that intelligent, it's called doing your own thing. How do you know that it wasn't done on purpose, let's say as a joke? Why would you use that rule where it states "When there is no overview......"

Umm DarkKnight, Pete is absolutely correct. seeing as how this thread is about Overviews NOT Running Time whoever intorduced Runtime into this discussion to tryand justify something relating ws the one whoe swerved off track. But runtime is a piece of data that is contained in two places, ususally, the back cover and the disc itself and our Rules specify the disc itself, if there is a discrepancy between the disc and the Cover.. The Overview is typically only contained in one locatiopn, the back cover.

Now if i understand your other comment about Pete's knowing something relative to this Rule. He was one of the members that was instrumental in the writing of the Rule and ken ratified it, so I think he has a leg up on you in that regard.

What are you talking about Skip? I never responded to anything Pete said, I responded only to Yves. I think to totally misread my post. You should read it again Skip. I really don't understand what you are telling me here.

Ok, I just looked back and I guess I see why you think I am responding to Pete. He posted while I was typing my response to Yves. My post has nothing to do with Pete's. post.