Yves chooses to ignore completely the difference between his screen cap and yours, as I have indicated here (iincluding a sourced definition, much like Pete's). 
Let me reiterate: by definition, a credit has to include the name of the person (or animal) being credited.

And as far as a rule change goes: I think a rule change is necessary only to allow for Kathy's suggestion on page 1 of this thread. Other than that, I agree with Pete that no change is necessary.

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Let me reiterate: by definition, a credit has to include the name of the person (or animal) being credited.

Movie credits are lists of names, that we find generally at the end or the beginning of the movie, sometimes after the prologue, and sometimes after several scenes, several minutes after the beginning of the movie. Informations given by text just when we see a person on screen are not, in my opinion, credits that are to be listed in cast or crew lists.

I can understand that other people have a different point of view. But if we introduce such "credits" (text taken inside a movie/documentary), I'm sure we'll be soon facing controversial cases, as I tried to demonstrate with my screenshots.

To add to my position : how many times is the word list (or listed) used in contribution rules for cast and crew ? I counted 19.

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Quoting dee1959jay:

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Let me reiterate: by definition, a credit has to include the name of the person (or animal) being credited.

Movie credits are lists of names, that we find generally at the end or the beginning of the movie, sometimes after the prologue, and sometimes after several scenes, several minutes after the beginning of the movie. Informations given by text just when we see a person on screen are not, in my opinion, credits that are to be listed in cast or crew lists.

I can understand that other people have a different point of view. But if we introduce such "credits" (text taken inside a movie/documentary), I'm sure we'll be soon facing controversial cases, as I tried to demonstrate with my screenshots.

To add to my position : how many times is the word list (or listed) used in contribution rules for cast and crew ? I counted 19.

I think you are focusing on the wrong word.  We are after 'credits', recognition by name of a person contributing to a performance, not lists.  Yes, more often than not, those credits do come in list form, but that isn't always the case.  When they don't come in list form, the rules allow us to find that credit elsewhere in the film.  A name, on screen, of a person being interviewed, qualifies as a credit because it is the recognition, by name, of a person contributing to the documentary.

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So there's no requirement for credits to be in a list.

Definition of credits in the Film Terms Glossary (link given by you) :

credits : in general this term refers to the list of technical personnel, cast, and crew of a film; specifically, it refers to the list of names and functions of persons and corporations contributing and responsible for the artistic or intellectual content of a film, such as: "Story by...", "Screenplay by...", "Photography by...", etc.; sometimes distinguished from the cast (the performers in front of the camera).


Funny that when you cited this source, you removed the term "list"

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I think you are focusing on the wrong word.  We are after 'credits', recognition by name of a person contributing to a performance, not lists. 

We are discussing about how to enter them in dvdprofiler. I agree with a recognition of a person contributing to a performance, when I add them in the database. But my proposal was, at the beginning of this thread "Dominic Lieven : Himself (uncredited)" and I have not changed my mind.

This is conform to the rules that consider movie credits as lists that are at the beginning, at the end or anywhere else. But here we have a specific information, and the recognition must be done with "uncredited" checked, which means that the person does not appear in the "credits" (lists).

Now suppose we do not check uncredited. The profile is accepted. Then somebody else contributes a change to remove this credit, giving screenshots of all the credits, showing clearly that the name is not on those lists. What will happen ? Probably the change will be accepted... and we can start again... in another profile of the same movie... 

Always introducing new interpretations of the rules is not, in my opinion, a good thing...

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Now suppose we do not check uncredited. The profile is accepted. Then somebody else contributes a change to remove this credit, giving screenshots of all the credits, showing clearly that the name is not on those lists. What will happen ? Probably the change will be accepted... and we can start again... in another profile of the same movie... 

Not checking uncredited would be correct, because the person is credited. The contributed change would be declined if counteracted by a screenshot of the interviewee with the credit on-screen (like the ones Pete and I provided).

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Always introducing new interpretations of the rules is not, in my opinion, a good thing...

I agree. I beg to differ however that this is a new interpretation of the rules, as they explicitly tell us to enter credits from "elsewhere" if no end credits exist.

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And talking about funny: you choose to ignore the definition Pete provided:
"An acknowledgment of work done, as in the production of a motion picture or publication. Often used in the plural"
Note: "Often", not "Always".

The specifics of your quote from the Glossary definition are in its specification of "technical personnel, cast, and crew of a film".

I would also say... most TV series opening credits has the main cast and guest cast (during the episode I would also point out) one at a time on the screen just like these documentaries do. Not in lists.. so do you intend we stop including those?