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There was a time when just like every other user I used IMDb, but stopped when it was discovered that Ken had forbidden their use. That does not mean that you will find none of the old data, just like you may still find some of the old Group W  prelim to the Rules.

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LOL, I always wondered whether Ken had edited the Guidelines or that had somehow been overlooked, even YOU never mentioned it. All I can say is as soon as I discovered it i figured ot the correct answer. I don't, however recall the guidelines stating to use the DVD credits, just not to use IMDb.

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LOL, I always wondered whether Ken had edited the Guidelines or that had somehow been overlooked, even YOU never mentioned it. All I can say is as soon as I discovered it i figured ot the correct answer. I don't, however recall the guidelines stating to use the DVD credits, just not to use IMDb.

I never mentioned what?  That the guidelines told us to use the DVD credits?  What reason would I have had to mention it prior to this?  The guidelines never told us we couldn't use IMDb, only that we couldn't use IMDb style roman numerals.  If you think about it, why would they?  There is no reason to tell us not to use IMdb, when we are already being told we have to use the DVD credits.

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Just how many of his 5023 contributions are going to have to be fixed? Just how much damage has he done to the database? 

Over the years, I have personally fixed at least a hundred different profiles submitted by him that had cast and crew mined from IMDb. I'm sure there are many, many more, and the really bad thing is that users often look to American R1 profiles to clone cast and crew from, meaning that this data has been copied to many more profiles throughout the various regions and localities. I've never publicly called him out on those occasions, but it has always struck me as kind of funny that he's been attacking me for years - although never for anything else than me following the rules and/or contributing correct data, of course - while singlehandedly being responsible for a rather large chunk of the IMDb-mined cast and crew in our database.

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the move to Invelos was an auotmated process.

As others have pointed out: no, it was not. Instead, each and every profile in the Invelos database was manually submitted by the users. I'm sure many people submitted some unchecked data during that "rush" to get the new database populated, and Ken needed the new database filled so he didn't bother with requiring contribution notes, so all in all I'm not exactly blaming you. But don't hide behind the claim that it was an automated process. It wasn't. Additionally, as we've seen here, you've still been submitting the same old unchecked IMDb-mined data at least up until 2008, and quite possibly long after that, too, while calling it "STRICTLY As Credited" in your notes. Now that's where I do begin to blame you.

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Yes, Tim it was an automated process.

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There was a very specific procedure that ken passed onto a few users that completely automated the process to facilitate the setup of the bew database at Invelos.

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He had not yet ported over from Intervocative, we started from scratch and 100,000 titles overnight. you don't do that without automation.

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You believe that you knoqw eve4ythingb andn you know very little Tim

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The atmosphere here improved immensely for a week or so not to long ago but I have no idea why...

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