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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks. I got turned on by Last House on the Left so time for an update*  *may not be true  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
The BBFC uses this definition for "adult" works:
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Sex works (works whose primary purpose is sexual arousal or stimulation) are likely to be passed only in the adult categories.
And that's the one I follow - if it's not designed to turn you on, it doesn't get "Adult".
In this example, the intent of "Naked Boys Singing" is not arousal, but more humour, so I wouldn't class it as an adult work. So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | OK... that is something I could see... so something like both Playboy Videos and Girls Gone Wild would be considered adult. Even though it don't show "everything" their primary purpose is arousal. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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The BBFC uses this definition for "adult" works:
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Sex works (works whose primary purpose is sexual arousal or stimulation) are likely to be passed only in the adult categories.
And that's the one I follow - if it's not designed to turn you on, it doesn't get "Adult".
In this example, the intent of "Naked Boys Singing" is not arousal, but more humour, so I wouldn't class it as an adult work.
So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together? I obviously wouldn't. I still feel embarrassment when watch a movie with my teen daughter if there is a simple pair of breasts shown on screen. While I see nothing wrong with it. And she is old enough to understand... I don't feel it is something to see together. this is more basically where is the line drawn for contributions of the Adult genre? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together? I'm sorry, but that's just not a good way of defining an "adult" work. Would you sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch Halloween, Evil Dead, The Exorcist? What about adult comedies like Kingpin, Knocked Up, Clerks? Do you want all those films to have an "Adult" rating? |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
OK... that is something I could see... so something like both Playboy Videos and Girls Gone Wild would be considered adult. Even though it don't show "everything" their primary purpose is arousal. Yes, I think sometimes it's more important to look at intent rather than content. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together? I would be way more worried about my 11 year old daughter seeing someone shot several times than I would about her seeing a boob. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
I would be way more worried about my 11 year old daughter seeing someone shot several times than I would about her seeing a boob. If my daughter had seen a boob in a film called "Naked Boys Singing" I would be very, very confused!  But I agree with your point. Everyone has their own opinion as to what is and isn't suitable for children. That's why I think it's a good idea to have a concrete definition. |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Got a fun one:
Where the Truth Lies went to theaters unrated or not rated, then was released as an R-Rated "DVD Edition" and an "Unrated Theaterical Edition". Someone just submited it with unrated and I voted no due to this but feel I might be wrong or off.
This raise a few questions:
Since it's called unrated is it unrated or not rated?
Does a rated version following it on home video affect if it's called unrated or not rated?
Why is something so simple so complicated? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | What does it say on the case itself? If it has Unrated printed on either the front of back of the case it gets the rating of Unrated.
I think that is one of the most simple parts of the new rule. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
What does it say on the case itself? If it has Unrated printed on either the front of back of the case it gets the rating of Unrated.
I think that is one of the most simple parts of the new rule. Pete's right. It has Unrated on the cover so it can have the "Unrated" rating. But if that hadn't have been there you would have been right as the R rated version never had a theatrical release. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also... (I don't have this release so don't know) if there is more then 1 version of the movie.. 1 R rated and 1 Unrated. Then the profile goes with the highest rating... which is Unrated per the Rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
What does it say on the case itself? If it has Unrated printed on either the front of back of the case it gets the rating of Unrated.
I think that is one of the most simple parts of the new rule. Guess I need to read the new rule more carefull, it does clearly say unrated on the cover. It's not a 2 versions on 1 disc either, there are 2 different dvds out. I accendentaly bought the DVD version, but sold that and got the unrated soon after. Here's the UPC for the theater version: 043396138988 Weren't we going to use unrated for alternate versions and not rated for stuff never submited? Of course, rethinking this one it probably was submited, got an NC-17 and went out unrated instead... either way I'm changing my vote. Thanks. | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm going through mine now and ran across something interesting.
Beyond the Door is a two disc set with the rated version on one dvd and the unrated on another.
It is in my collection as a box set (not by me, though I understand why it is).
The parent is currently NR. The Unrated disc is NR. The Rated disc is R.
Now, to submit it, do I change the parent to "Unrated" (since it's the highest) or remove the rating altogether and re-submit it?
Secondly, I then change the child that's rated "NR" to "Unrated" and then re-submit that, is that correct? | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | As long as the R rated verison of Beyond the Door had a theatrical release then yes, both the parent and the unrated child profiles will get the "Unrated" rating.
If it didn't get a theatrical release then the child should remain NR. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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