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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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so everywhere where DTS was removed you can put it back if you want to, it is a collection of DTS dvd's


DTS is  one of the choices in the drop down menu, so yes, any DVD that has DTS on the cover can technically have that in the edition field.  Personally, I hate this, since it is covered in the audio section, but for some reason, Ken included it as a possible Edition description.
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Giga:

You are arguing for an exception based on a SINGLE title and that won't work. For CONTRIBUTION the Rules are the RULES. What you want to do locally is up to you. Based on the Covers the correct answer as I explained yesterday is very obvious whether we like it or not. Just do it. the UPC# s will find the titles.
Every change to the Rules has ramificartions, some of which can be anticipated and some of which cannot but in every case the ramifications are not positive in nature.

The answer is on the cover and in the Rules, just follow it and do what you will locally.

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bah, it only mentions collections without indicating collection has to be on the cover, it gives examples not limiting ones that i can see. So edition fleld has become some kind of dumping field to get sometihing in to, either this or that or some of those and lost a bit of its attraction, opening the field even more to put in more variations of the same DVD without any variation on the dvd.
This makes that we now have more legit titles for the some thing:

The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collectors Edition
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Collectors Edition
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Friends Collection

anymore legit titles for this one DVD Release?

Edit: sorry Collection should be Collectors Edition
Edit: Friends: The One With All The Birthdays forgot this one in the list
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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so everywhere where DTS was removed you can put it back if you want to, it is a collection of DTS dvd's


DTS is  one of the choices in the drop down menu, so yes, any DVD that has DTS on the cover can technically have that in the edition field.  Personally, I hate this, since it is covered in the audio section, but for some reason, Ken included it as a possible Edition description.


Thanks Hal... never noticed it in the drop-down before
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bah, it only mentions collections without indicating collection has to be on the cover, it gives examples not limiting ones that i can see. So edition fleld has become some kind of dumping field to get sometihing in to, either this or that or some of those and lost a bit of its attraction, opening the field even more to put in more variations of the same DVD without any variation on the dvd.
This makes that we now have more legit titles for the some thing:

The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collection
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Friends Collection

anymore legit titles for this one DVD Release?


Actually, based on the cover the only "legit" title would be:
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection

All of your other examples are incorrect, based on the rules and what is shown on the cover.
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Personally I gave up hope to find something useful in the title field since the X-Men 3 thread.
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Personally I gave up hope to find something useful in the title field since the X-Men 3 thread.

[sarcastic_mode] well it IS DVD Profiler after all, not Movie Profiler. [/sarcastic_mode]

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Personally I gave up hope to find something useful in the title field since the X-Men 3 thread.

[sarcastic_mode] well it IS DVD Profiler after all, not Movie Profiler. [/sarcastic_mode]


Can I profile my MSDN subscritpion DVDs now, all those different versions of Windows and Visual Studio are getting out of control? 
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Quoting Giga Wizard:
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bah, it only mentions collections without indicating collection has to be on the cover, it gives examples not limiting ones that i can see. So edition fleld has become some kind of dumping field to get sometihing in to, either this or that or some of those and lost a bit of its attraction, opening the field even more to put in more variations of the same DVD without any variation on the dvd.
This makes that we now have more legit titles for the some thing:

The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collection
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Friends Collection

anymore legit titles for this one DVD Release?


Actually, based on the cover the only "legit" title would be:
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection

All of your other examples are incorrect, based on the rules and what is shown on the cover.


Going by the rules and the covers I have to agree this is the only ligit way for the online database as far as I can see.
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The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collectors Edtion
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Collectors Edtion
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Friends Collection


Actually, based on the cover the only "legit" title would be:
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection

All of your other examples are incorrect, based on the rules and what is shown on the cover.

How does that work out?
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It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.

The edition fleld is not required?
you may use the a standard description: Collectors Edtion
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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The edition fleld is not required?
you may use the a standard description: Collectors Edtion


He can correct me if I am mistaken he isn't saying the edition field is not required... that it should be...

Title: The One With All The Birthdays
Edition: Friends Collection

which going by the rules and the covers is what looks correct to me.... at least for contribution per the Rules.
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He can also correct me: no where is stated that the edition field is required. As for the rules this makes already 2 titles are allowed:
The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collectors Edtion

and why would Friends: in front of the title not be allowed, as i seem to recollect there are a lot of titles in the online database in this format:
Series Title: Title
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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The Edition Rules:
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The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.


It tells you how to use it... not that there is an option not to use it.

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and why would Friends: in front of the title not be allowed, as i seem to recollect there are a lot of titles in the online database in this format:
Series Title: Title


You can not use what is already in the database to determine what is right or wrong... you can only use the rules and ken/gerri's comments on this forum for that.  In the case of these releases it specifically says it is collections which per rules the collections go in the edition field Looking at these covers they are...

The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Weddings
The One With All The Babies

And all those titles are within the "Friends Collection"

Even before this thread came up I always say "The One With All The XXX" to be the title of the DVD Release I never once thought that Friends was part of either of the titles. But titles within a collection series being the Friends Collection.

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The One With All The Birthdays: Collectors Edtion

These are not Collectors Edition DVDs... so I do not see this as a possibility either.. it does not say Collector's Edition" so it is not appropriate as the rules say they need to be.
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I would support the title

"Friends Collection: The One With All the Babies"

with an empty edition field.
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Quoting Giga Wizard:
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bah, it only mentions collections without indicating collection has to be on the cover, it gives examples not limiting ones that i can see. So edition fleld has become some kind of dumping field to get sometihing in to, either this or that or some of those and lost a bit of its attraction, opening the field even more to put in more variations of the same DVD without any variation on the dvd.
This makes that we now have more legit titles for the some thing:

The One With All The Birthdays
The One With All The Birthdays: Collection
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Collection
Friends: The One With All The Birthdays:  Friends Collection

anymore legit titles for this one DVD Release?


Actually, based on the cover the only "legit" title would be:
The One With All The Birthdays: Friends Collection

All of your other examples are incorrect, based on the rules and what is shown on the cover.


If you are saying 'The One with All the Birthdays' goes in the Title field, and 'Friends Collection' goes in the Edition field, then I agree with you.
Hal
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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Personally I gave up hope to find something useful in the title field since the X-Men 3 thread.

[sarcastic_mode] well it IS DVD Profiler after all, not Movie Profiler. [/sarcastic_mode]


Can I profile my MSDN subscritpion DVDs now, all those different versions of Windows and Visual Studio are getting out of control? 


If they contain video, yes.

Just data....sorry, no!
Hal
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