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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see a statement that it would be updated in the rules unless there was a discussion of disagreement with that idea.
there was continuing discussion - in disagreement and then no rules update.
I see that as changing her mind.
so I will contribute per the rules.
and you can continue to vote No, based on a statement that was never followed through with. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Changing the date to the first in the season is against the rules as the rules are written... Rules quote: Quote:
Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.
Anthologies of Episodes – The Production Year will be the date of the Earliest Episode For the complete series season release we use first aired date in its country of origin. The individual discs is not the complete season/series... it is a disc of episodes... or as the rules calls it an anthology of episodes. So gets earliest date from that disc. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Child profiles are stupid. Glad I don't use them. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Changing the date to the first in the season is against the rules as the rules are written...
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Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.
Anthologies of Episodes – The Production Year will be the date of the Earliest Episode
For the complete series season release we use first aired date in its country of origin. The individual discs is not the complete season/series... it is a disc of episodes... or as the rules calls it an anthology of episodes. So gets earliest date from that disc. An Anthology of episodes - Is a Best of - Like Saturday Night Live: The Best of Adam Sandler Region 1 Released: 8/12/2003 Full Frame 1.33:1 Saturday Night Live: The Best of Will Ferrell Region 1 Released: 8/12/2003 Full Frame 1.33:1 and where in the rule does it state to use a different date then the season date for child profiles. you are making up rules now. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Show me where the rules make that distinction! Because so is a single disc from any set!
A single disc does NOT make a complete season/series.... unless it is an extremely short season/series and has every episode from that season/series on the one disc. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Changing the date to the first in the season is against the rules as the rules are written...
Rules quote:
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Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.
Anthologies of Episodes – The Production Year will be the date of the Earliest Episode
For the complete series season release we use first aired date in its country of origin. The individual discs is not the complete season/series... it is a disc of episodes... or as the rules calls it an anthology of episodes. So gets earliest date from that disc.
An Anthology of episodes - Is a Best of - Like Saturday Night Live: The Best of Adam Sandler Region 1 Released: 8/12/2003 Full Frame 1.33:1
Saturday Night Live: The Best of Will Ferrell Region 1 Released: 8/12/2003 Full Frame 1.33:1
and where in the rule does it state to use a different date then the season date for child profiles.
you are making up rules now. I did not make up anything!... I posted the rules exactly as they are written. And to be honest I do not like the accusation that I made up a rule that isn't there!  | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Show me where the rules make that distinction! Because so is a single disc from any set!
A single disc does NOT make a complete season/series.... unless it is an extremely short season/series and has every episode from that season/series on the one disc. a single disc from a TV series is just part of the whole. It's clearly not an anthology. The rule is talking about a whole season. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | What you are saying is that the rules committee and Ken set up the rules with the specific intention of having child discs of a season that do not link to the other discs in a season or to the parent profile.
I can see that. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules is talking about the season/series sets profile. The disc within is exactly the same as any anthology disc.
And that is not making up a rule... it may be that we have 2 different views on what the rule says/means. Only Invelos can say which they mean. Not any one or other user can say without a doubt which it is. But it is not making up a rule. I am highly insulted at that accusation! | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | And looking at the votes for the only update I have seen from you on it I am far from the only one to read it the way I do. 5 votes so far and 4 disagreeing with you on it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,641 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The rules is talking about the season/series sets profile. The disc within is exactly the same as any anthology disc.
And that is not making up a rule... it may be that we have 2 different views on what the rule says/means. Only Invelos can say which they mean. Not any one or other user can say without a doubt which it is. But it is not making up a rule. I am highly insulted at that accusation! I do think you both have a difference of opinion although I have to agree with ateo357 that individual discs from a season set don't fall under the anthology rule. I sure hope 4.0 is close behind and will address the TV series issues and eliminate child/disc based profiles for TV series altogether. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | And I am fine with the fact that you have a different opinion then I do. And I thank you for not making insulting accusations. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
And looking at the votes for the only update I have seen from you on it I am far from the only one to read it the way I do. 5 votes so far and 4 disagreeing with you on it. only did 1 to gauge the response. and if 3 knew the definition of of what an Anthology was, or if I removed the produced year change it would be different. only your 1 vote. so by your reasoning would that be overwhelming. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Although I don't agree on the definition for original title as the title of whole show without the season indicators, I'd read the rules that way, that the production date for a whole season is clearly defined as the date the season airing startet. Reading the rules closely reveals this sentence for the creation of children: Quote:
Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules ... ... and the standard contribution rules for TV shows tell us what to use for the complete season in the same clear manner: Quote:
Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002. Where is there a room for interpretion? | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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And looking at the votes for the only update I have seen from you on it I am far from the only one to read it the way I do. 5 votes so far and 4 disagreeing with you on it.
only did 1 to gauge the response.
and if 3 knew the definition of of what an Anthology was, or if I removed the produced year change it would be different.
only your 1 vote. so by your reasoning would that be overwhelming. And how do you know the ones that just say I agree.... what they agree with. Just the date? Jut the original title... both? who knows? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
Although I don't agree on the definition for original title as the title of whole show without the season indicators, I'd read the rules that way, that the production date for a whole season is clearly defined as the date the season airing startet.
Reading the rules closely reveals this sentence for the creation of children:Quote:
Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules ...
... and the standard contribution rules for TV shows tell us what to use for the complete season in the same clear manner:Quote:
Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.
Where is there a room for interpretion? because the rule you quote is for complete season/series... a single disc can not be a complete season or series. A single disc is no more then an anthology (a collection) of episodes. which we use earliest air date of episode on the disc. | | | | Pete |
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