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But, this is a Director credit. So, the online database must incorrectly list the Director as Jhon Huston instead of John Huston because of a typing error in the credits.

Fortunately, his common name isn't Jhon Huston so we can enter both his "correct" name as well as the original credit. Our linking system may have its share of faults but it has some benefits when these kind of things happen.

I just can't bring myself to do that - I will not give Jhon Huston any credit! 

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The problem is that it is the CREDITS that are wrong.  Based on the rules, the online database must contain incorrect data.

Locally though...

aah! Okay. I thought it was wrong on the box but correct in the credits.

But, yeah, I agree with you not wanting to knowingly submit incorrect data to the database, it's pretty retarded.

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I mean, why stop at spelling?  I see grammatical errors all the time.  Should I be allowed to correct those as well?

Sometimes a DVD has the "wrong" aspect ratio.

Yeah, I think all pan & scan DVDs should be "corrected". 

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I mean, why stop at spelling?  I see grammatical errors all the time.  Should I be allowed to correct those as well?

Sometimes a DVD has the "wrong" aspect ratio.

Yeah, I think all pan & scan DVDs should be "corrected". 

Hear hear Kino. And a name change to pan & scam. Lets not forget foolscreen, Lola

Wow! I woke up to 57 replies to this little question! 

As someone said earlier, we first must agree on what already is the rules. It seems obvious that this is "type the overview excatly as written on the cover" when submitting to the online database. So far we should obey to this rule whatsoever, since it is a public database.

However a discussion on the topic is still useful. I personally think the rule is a bit problematic. We should ask ourselves what is the purpose in writing the overview in addition to the cover scan? Most of us would say it is for us to read the information written on the cover easily, since the scan resolution/quality is somewhat limited. Why would people like to read the overview? In order to find out what spelling errors there are on the cover? Or to get the information that is communicated through the text?

A good example here is when I was writing down Addicted2DVD's name. First I wrote AddictedtoDVD and then realized it was wrong. But despite the two different spellings, the meaning is the same. And I think we all get the message whichever of these spellings we use.

A problem that TheMadMartian pointed out is that if we start correcting things, where should the limit go? Spelling? Poor grammatics? I feel this could be specified in the rules. That's why I used the term obvious spelling errors in my first post. This should not be very problematic, as long as we agree upon using either international english or american english as a guideline.

But this is just my opinions. Ken's the one to decide anyway and I appreciate the freedom to do whatever I want locally.

I have been tempted to do as Jimmy S and only submit info locally. That would save me a lot of time and discussions. However, it would be a shame to do all this hard work and not to share it with the rest of the community. I respect his decision however.

What's interesting in this thread is that the majority of people against writing the overview with spelling errors is from outside the US. I am from Norway, and covers from my country tends to have way more spelling errors than those from the UK and US! If our local covers were as good as the american ones I would not have bothered about this topic in the first place...

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Only the Overview we put any error into the database they write on the Backvoer. Where is the logic?

Becuse that's something you can't write a Rule for that everyone would agree on the outcome unless you say "exactly as cover"... there are enough arguments over the interpretation of other Rules which are trying to be clear without introducing a Rule that actually invites disagreement.

I think it's a shame we can't add an 'online' note sometimes to point out important errors (such as a couple of cases I know of where the back cover overview is actually for the wrong film or, as per one double feature I submitted, the overviews for the two films are 'swapped' so under the title for film A it describes film B and vice versa) but at the moment the best we can do is note this in the Submission Notes.

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Wow, this is a big discussion :-). I can agree, I know the rules. But it is still a bit strange because:

We test regions with AnyDVD as they are often wrong on the Backcover. We put the real Regions into the database, not the wrong from the Backcover.

Audio Tracks and Subtitles are also very often wrong on the Backcover. We check them with tools and put the right Audio Tracks as on disc and not as on Backcover into the database.

Running Time. Mostly wrong on Backcover, often several minutes. We check them with tools and put the correct Running Time into the database and not the wrong from the Backcover.

Only the Overview we put any error into the database they write on the Backvoer. Where is the logic?

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Everything else you mention we can take from the actual disc(s). So the info is still coming from the item in hand that we are collecting. When it comes to the overview... I almost never see the overview anywhere other then the back cover. So that is something that must come from the cover.

I for one would be totally against a change to this rule. As is right now it records the actual info of what the program is made for collecting now, plus it is a straight black and white rule that is easy for everyone to understand and follow. There is not that many rules that can be written so easily and straight-forward as this one is. It should remain so... and then anything that people don't feel comfortable with can use the option of changing locally.