You seem to be arguing that if there are two tracks in the same language, which aren't identical in content you should list one of them as other. I see nothing in the rules to support this contention, nor does it make a lot of sense. Plus, that's not how things are done on the vast majority of profiles.

Other means there's something that none of the other options describe, meaning a either a language or a content type that we don't have an option for. This includes languages which aren't on the list, like Inuktitut and gimmicks like the Thermian "language" on Galaxy Quest. While the rules don't explicitly say this, this is what other means in everything other list of options on a form or drop-down elsewhere in the world, so it's pretty much common sense.

Would you have use change the special home theater mix present on many recent Disney Blu-rays to other because it's a different mix than the main English track? Should the original Australian language track on Mad Max be listed as other to differentiate it from the American dub? Should moves with multiple commentary tracks have all the additional ones listed as other so that we know they have different participants?

Speaking of which, you seem to be the guy who listed the director/producer commentary on Control Room as other and asserted that the rules demanded it in your vote. Can you please explain this?

Lol DJ

Ace
You don't seem yo be paying attention. That's not putting you down. Ignore for one second that castellano is a subset of Spanish. Is it in the list of languages...no. There are many dialects of Spanish as is true with most languages. What I am saying is that in this case two languages are spelled out, Spanish and castellano, to list both just as Spanish is meaningless and confusing possibly to some of less informed users. There is a distinction and that distinction is best made through the use of other, while other does not at this time allow us to clarify the distinction, its use does at least serve as a red flag that there issomething different about one of these audio tracks and that can be easily spotted. Similarly with the laugh track at least the difference is highlighted even though we cannot explain the difference at this time. You would take any possibility of indicating a difference away and just use muddled data that is ultimately if little use.

I have explained how I would like to see it using other, ken hasn't given us that...yet. This is so obvious and simple to me I am surprised you don't see it. There is adifference between every day use and understanding and data. IF a film.is ever produced using southern I will say the same thing. I deal in the world of data and from a data stand point. Catellano does not equal Spanish, the best that can be said is that it is a subset of Spanish. But it should not be called Spanish. From a data poverty it is Spanish when it says Spanish.

I agree that "Spanish" is less specific than "Castellano" and it would be nice if we could track this better. However, "other" is far less specific even that that. I don't see how that makes things any better. Spanish is a little non-specific. Other is so non-specific as to be nigh-meaningless.

And again, Control Room. You keep saying I shouldn't have changed the data without checking all sources to find out why it was the way it was and clearly noting that I checked said sources. You are the person who submitted it and the notes give no useful data, so I'm researching it the only way possible: I'm asking you. Are you incapable of answering a direct question? Are you going to either accept my explanation as to why my data is correct or explain why you want it to be different?

You would probably have to look at intervocative to find control room notes.

Quoting DJ Doena:

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That's raw data, there's nothing to speculate about what language it might be.

Just to clarify... that's "raw" data from the IFO file, which is a text file. It can still be wrong. It's not common but it does happen. (I've seen discs set to anamorphic when they were not, and I've seen English commentary tracks set as Spanish.)

While we're on it:

Which language to enter here?

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Ace
You are trying way too hard not to understand. These concepts are exceedingly basic and simple.

I think that's you're trying way to hard to avoid giving a straightforward explanation. So far, you've mainly wheedled and avoided giving answers to simple questions. I am looking for direct answers, not claims that the answer should be obvious or suggestion that I would know the answer if I looked it up. So I'll ask again:

* What specifically makes the M*A*S*H audio other and how would this rule apply to other shows?
* Should all shows with laugh-tracks be listed this way or just ones presented with and without?
* Does this also apply to the bleep tracks in The Osbournes?
* Should all cases where there are multiple dubs in the same language have one of these tracks listed as other?
* If it is only some cases, how do we tell the difference?
* What if there is only one track in a given language, but it is not labelled with the standard name of said language? (e.g. Castillian, Australian, etc)
* Was my submission for Titanic wrong or just not documented well enough for you to tell if it was correct?
* If the former, why is my submission wrong?
* If the latter, what information would you have included in the documentation and how would this have made things clearer?
* The same questions for Control Room.

For all questions, please support your answer with references to the rules, or if that is not applicable, an explanation as to why your standard makes more sense.