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Captain America: The First Avenger (Prosthetics Designer)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't see the point in further discussion.


Neither do I, which is why I called for a change to the rules.

What Invelos seem to forget is that it is unreasonable to expect contributors to have a vast knowledge of the film industry and its terminology to be able to use this program to its full extent.

Even someone with zero knowledge should be able to do a full audit of a film if they have the disc in front of them.

I love DVDProfiler, but the contribution process has got to the point where you practically need a degree in film studies to be able to contribute properly.

I don't care how long the list of accepted roles it - they should ALL be listed. There should be a link in the rules to another page that lists every role that is acceptable (so as to not clutter the crew chart).
That way, a simple click could lead to the answer.
There should also be a system in place to allow forum users to vote/veto proposed entries into that list.

I realise that while my suggestion could very well make things a lot easier it's unlikely to happen with the lack of participation from Invelos staff.

I agree Martian, that common sense is indeed needed; but the requirement to do further research and scour the internet for supporting documentation should NOT be needed.

As for the 'prosthetics' issue. Maybe a rule similar to the Production Sound Mixer could be incorporated: If a Prosthetics Supervisor/Artist/Deisigner is listed within the Make-up Section (or under a Make-up heading) enter as Make-up Effects.
If listed under Special/Visual Effects enter as Visual Effects.

Once again, common sense with the above would be required; but at least it would mean that important crew are not left out of the database.

Alternatively, and by far the best solution - make everything local only; because I don't know of a single person who deserves the effort the contributors put in anyway.       
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As I said before.... I pretty much stay away from doing crew  mainly because of stuff like this. I think to make it as easy as possible for all contributors... no matter their knowledge it should be set up into sections as it is now (Direction, Writing, Production, etc.). And then from there it be like the cast section where you just type what you see for the role. That way there is no shoehorning what so ever. This way it is also the most accurate to the credits as well. Then when you click on a crew members name... bring up the movies they work on you will get a list of their movies with the exact credit they have. Would you get longer lists of crew credits in the profile? Probably... but in my eyes that really don't matter... if they belong in that section and willing to do the work it is OK with me. Especially knowing that Gerri already stated everyone can do as little of the section as they want.
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Quoting Pantheon:
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What Invelos seem to forget is that it is unreasonable to expect contributors to have a vast knowledge of the film industry and its terminology to be able to use this program to its full extent.

Even someone with zero knowledge should be able to do a full audit of a film if they have the disc in front of them.

I love DVDProfiler, but the contribution process has got to the point where you practically need a degree in film studies to be able to contribute properly.

I don't care how long the list of accepted roles it - they should ALL be listed. There should be a link in the rules to another page that lists every role that is acceptable (so as to not clutter the crew chart).
That way, a simple click could lead to the answer.
There should also be a system in place to allow forum users to vote/veto proposed entries into that list.


I agree with this.

Happy New Year!
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
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