The top row (Tool Bar) on most browsers example Firefox
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You might have to enable the tool Bar.

On the Internet Explorer you have to enable the Menu Bar , right click on the top blue strip.

If you are using firefox it should be at the bottom of your screen. See where I circled in the below image...

No problem Kathy... and what it is... it works for any and all websites. All it does is let you search for a particular word on the site. Makes it easier to find things on a webpage.

So say you want to see if a crew role is in the chart... instead of having to read that entire section to see if it is there... you just type the role you are looking for. Much quicker.

BTW... mine isn't gold. I just use a wood grain theme for my firefox.

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Yves is absolutely correct on this one. Martian half of the problems we have are related to people simply ignoring what the Rule says and trying to skirt it or create some parrticular thought process to get around it to the data that you want to deal with. Sorry, amigo, you are famed for this but you are deae wrong. Creative Make-Up is not in the current list of acceptable job duties, whether it should be or not is a different issue. But the fact is it is NOT, Hal is correct as well this would fall into the realm of Custom Role.

his such a simple question and answer, I am not sure why it even needed to be asked in reality. Credit says Creative Make-up, is it in the list of duties we recognize at this time, if Yes proceed to next step, if No STOP, no further action is taken at this time. A very simple binary switch with a Yes/No response straight out if a flow chart. There is no Maybe.

This kind of thinking = absolutism

Actually, this kind of thinking keeps our data "clean" until such time as Ken sees fit to add additional crew roles to the table OR allow open credits.

Skip & Hal,

Would you also argue that - for example - "Story" (without "by") is not allowed? It's not in the list.
If you are allowing it, then you are applying some kind of common sense, aren't you?

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Skip & Hal,

Would you also argue that - for example - "Story" (without "by") is not allowed? It's not in the list.
If you are allowing it, then you are applying some kind of common sense, aren't you?

The word "by" adds nothing to the description of the crew role.

This analogy is specious when people are shoehorning on-screen credits that are completely different than what is listed in the crew table.

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You can try to negatively spin this by applying terms such as absolutism or authoritarian or whatever. But the reason the Rules were developed was an attempt to create a single page from which all users could simply supply the SAME data fromt he same place in the SAME way. Sadly we get users who seem to delight in trying to skirt or subvert those rules for whatever reasons and others who seem to take pleasure in just trying to be argumentative or create specious and fanciful analogies. The Rules really are not all that hard to deal with if you will understand the basic premise that was used to create them. In this case we have a list of apprved job roles which are applied to our job groupings, if that job role is not on the list we don't use it at this time. CMA is not in tjhe listing so.... we can discuss whether it should be or not that would be useful to all and to Ken, but in the here and NOW it is not one of our approved jobs simple.

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Skip & Hal,

Would you also argue that - for example - "Story" (without "by") is not allowed? It's not in the list.
If you are allowing it, then you are applying some kind of common sense, aren't you?

The word "by" adds nothing to the description of the crew role.

This analogy is specious when people are shoehorning on-screen credits that are completely different than what is listed in the crew table.

I agree that the word "by" adds nothing. That's not the point, however. Skip's argument - which you seem to support - is that you should look in the list and if you don't find it then it's not allowed.

If we have to determine if extra words 'add nothing' then we're on the same slippery slope that you seem to be so intent on avoiding.

As regards "Creative Make-up" one could argue that "Creative" means nothing in this context. After all, isn't all make-up for the movies creative in some sense? So if words that adds nothing are allowed, who gets to decide if the words add something or not?

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Skip & Hal,

Would you also argue that - for example - "Story" (without "by") is not allowed? It's not in the list.
If you are allowing it, then you are applying some kind of common sense, aren't you?

The word "by" adds nothing to the description of the crew role.

This analogy is specious when people are shoehorning on-screen credits that are completely different than what is listed in the crew table.

I agree that the word "by" adds nothing. That's not the point, however. Skip's argument - which you seem to support - is that you should look in the list and if you don't find it then it's not allowed.

If we have to determine if extra words 'add nothing' then we're on the same slippery slope that you seem to be so intent on avoiding.

As regards "Creative Make-up" one could argue that "Creative" means nothing in this context. After all, isn't all make-up for the movies creative in some sense? So if words that adds nothing are allowed, who gets to decide if the words add something or not?

Are you serious?  Who could reasonably argue that "creative" which is an adjective does not alter the noun that follows it.  That's what adjectives do!  The word "by" following the noun "Story" does not in any way alter "story" because it is not an adjective.

Sometimes I think all some people are interested in doing around here is finding any and every excuse to enter what they want, regardless of the absurdity of the argument!

To really simplify it for those who need it:

Would you ever say that these two items are the same thing:

Green book
Red book

See how that little adjective makes them two completely different things?????