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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Sorry, but for me the overview is that of the movie. What we call the overview is simply an advertisement for the contents of the package intended to tempt you to purchase the DVD, just as the cover art is. Do you insist on "correcting" the cover art when it depicts a scene not included in the film? "Correcting" the overview is just about the same thing. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Do you insist on "correcting" the cover art when it depicts a scene not included in the film? "Correcting" the overview is just about the same thing.
But why correcting runtime, sound tracks and subtitles ? Because they do not fit with what can be found on the DVD. Exactly the same for overview, specially when it depicts the wrong movie, as in the example of "A Shot in the Dark (1933)" | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
But why correcting runtime, sound tracks and subtitles ? Because they do not fit with what can be found on the DVD. Because these things are attributes of the movie, and the definitive source of such information is the DVD contents and not the packaging. Quote:
Exactly the same for overview, specially when it depicts the wrong movie, as in the example of "A Shot in the Dark (1933)" The overview has no intrinsic connection with the movie. It is merely a descriptive text written to entice you to purchase the DVD, and in fact many DVDs do not even have contributable overviews on the packaging. To try and equate an overview with things like runtime and sound tracks is silly. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
The overview has no intrinsic connection with the movie.
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To try and equate an overview with things like runtime and sound tracks is silly.
(bolded by me)Thanks !  Knowing now how you rate my opinion, I think the discussion is finished. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | There's really not a workable solution to this, since if you don't go by the overview as it is on the case, you start getting ping-pongs from people who spell the same word differently, or who are using different punctuation rules. Before the rule was clarified to be that it's what's on the case period, we had a lot of submissions adding or subtracting commas. Then we have endless grammatical arguments in the forums. Accepting the Overview as is isn't perfect, but at least it avoids a lot of that stuff. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
you start getting ping-pongs from people who spell the same word differently... For a given language, spelling mistakes are spelling mistakes. And do not speak me of color/colour. Are we about a Region 2 England or a Region 1 US profile ? You have the answer... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
There's really not a workable solution to this. I thought we had a workable solution. People can tweak the overviews to their heart's content as long as they don't insist on uploading their opinions to the online database. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
There's really not a workable solution to this, since if you don't go by the overview as it is on the case, you start getting ping-pongs from people who spell the same word differently, or who are using different punctuation rules. Before the rule was clarified to be that it's what's on the case period, we had a lot of submissions adding or subtracting commas. Then we have endless grammatical arguments in the forums. Accepting the Overview as is isn't perfect, but at least it avoids a lot of that stuff. I totally agree. The way it is handled right now leaves no room for interpretation. It's a consistent approach. I don't know why we go back and for on subjects like this. Do what you like locally and stick with what's printed on the cover for the online database. How do we know if something is a spelling error or done on purpose (We are assuming and we all know what that does to us!). I have seen spelling errors that were intentional to make a rhyme or something like that. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
How do we know if something is a spelling error or done on purpose. How do we know if a wrong runtime is an error or done on purpose ? | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
How do we know if a wrong runtime is an error or done on purpose ? By asking you, of course. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheDarkKnight:
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How do we know if something is a spelling error or done on purpose.
How do we know if a wrong runtime is an error or done on purpose ? Wow, great, thanks, you just proved the point! That's why we take it straight from the disc to get the "real" run time of the feature, the real data that can be proven, just like the overview that you have in your hand. Thanks for proving my point! I appreciate your help, even though you were trying to do the opposite.  | | | | Last edited: by TheDarkKnight |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
Wow, great, thanks you just proved the point! That's why we take it straight from the disc to get the "real" run time of the feature, the real data that can be proven, just like the overview that you have in your hand. Thanks for proving my point! I appreciate your help, even though you were trying to do the opposite. Sorry, but when you have on cover the overview of movie "XXXX", and on disc you have the movie "YYYY", it seems to me intelligent to use the part of the rule that allows to write a new text when there is no overview . Rule : "When there is no overview on the case, add a simple, self-written overview of 1-2 paragraphs. Do not include spoilers and always match the overview language to the profile's locality." | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Strict reading of the rule says no overview on the case... not No Overview for that particular movie. So per Rules I don't see how that rule can be used. since there is an overview... even if it is wrong there is one there. So per Rules you would use it. I would definitely vote no. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why is it that you always change to something else when you realize you got yourself stuck?
And why is that intelligent, it's called doing your own thing. How do you know that it wasn't done on purpose, let's say as a joke? Why would you use that rule where it states "When there is no overview......"
Edit: To avoid confusion, this is a response to Yves' post, not Pete's! | | | | Last edited: by TheDarkKnight |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I would definitely vote no. I think you will not have that great pleasure. I already gave what I would do in this case : Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
The only correct way to manage this is a contribution with this note "Partial contribution, without overview, since the overview on cover contains an obvious error". When Invelos will be tired of that, they will change the rule. I hope the rule will change, but as I said many many times, I respect them or refuse to contribute. Sorry for your no votes score... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
Why is it that you always change to something else.... ???? I always said exactly the same thing from the beginning of this thread. Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
Why would you use that rule where it states "When there is no overview......" Just because there is, in fact, no overview of the movie which is on disc. When we collect movies, we do not care to have overviews of movies we do not own. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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