Quoting Winston Smith:

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They match up with, Martians,interpretation. But as have said they donotmatch up with what was envisioned at all,and that section of the Rules remains virtually identical toour original conception.So I repeat, the martian is not the ultimate authority, nor do I pretend to be. But given Ken and gerris's silence, then I am a lot closer to it than the martian, and his interpretation is just that and it's incorrect. As I said Dan and I discussed this very issue and  we after the Actual Cast listing not some users Magic 8 Ball or divining rod to decide what is or is not cast. If Ken or Gerri wish to weigh on I will gladly yield to them, but i will not yield to someone who  was not involved in the process, not now, not ever. Nor willI yield to some majority, who also was not involved in the process.

Then it's time for it to change.

Simple as that. You're the ONLY dissenting voice in this entire discussion. The ONLY one who doesn't agree they should be added. What should've been a three post thread has once again descended into a mind boggling frustrating three page thread (with many more pages to come, I'm sure). No wonder others look at this place and laugh. This place basically has a sign up that says "we make things too difficult, we argue over the dumbest shiitake mushroom, we never EVER give an inch with our views because we're right while others are wrong and we absolutely NEVER see the arguement from the other person's point of view".

No matter what was INTENDED, if EVERYONE except ONE person is reading them the same way, what was originally intended obviously isn't coming through, and because of that they need to be changed to make sure everyone's on the same page. And that same page seems to be "they can be added".

Done.

Let me see if I have this straight here.  If Ken and Gerri don't pop up in a thread like this to explain how they want it done, then everyone is supposed to turn to Skip and ask him how to do it because he helped design rules several years ago and knows what was intended.  Rules that have changed some over the years from what I can tell.  But he isn't trying to be an authority on the program.  Are you kidding me? 

This kind of nonsense is why I don't post much here.  I don't care to have my every post pulled apart by someone who thinks they have some sort of power or inner knowledge about the program and what the owner wants.  I do find a lot of the rules for contributing to be confusing so I only contribute small things like overviews.

As to what was originally intended when the rules were created...How does that matter now?  What matters now is what the rules actually SAY, unless Ken or Gerri shows up and says otherwise.

Forum Moderator: Removed Your concept of look here, there and everywhere for Cast data has NO parrameters...what are you looking for, how are YOU determining what is Cast these people are no tlisted as Cast, they are listed within the CREW, how camn you determine that they are Cast, what parameters are being applied, there are NONE, therefore it is just as correct to say the caterere is a Cast member he is in the Crew list. You cannot just go wanderimng through the list of people and GUESS and it has to be able to app;ied to all titles, not just this one or that one. What is it that you are looking for that taht allows your Magic 8 Ball to or you guess. Can you delineate parameters, I don't think you can and don't claim that because there is a Casting Agent that is your parameter, that might not work on the next such guess. What are your parameters

Wow, two posts with personal attacks.  Seems somebody is incapable of acting like an adult. 

How is it that every one understands the guidelines but you?

           

Quoting Winston Smith:

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Noattacki at all,Martian.

Attack number 1:  I don't think the martian even understands anything beyond parsing, not does he understand sarcastic humor.

Attack number 2:  the majority in this case is simply going along ill-informed and not using their own brain

Attack number 3:  i suspect the rooy cause of this mass stupidity is simply anti-Skip not intellect.

As for the rest of your post, parameters were provided, you just refuse to accept them.  As far as I am concerned, and it seems everybody else as well, if someone is listed with a role or under a group cast listing, they are cast.  Seems quite simple to me.

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Quoting Winston Smith:

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Noattacki at all,Martian.

Attack number 1:  I don't think the martian even understands anything beyond parsing, not does he understand sarcastic humor.

Attack number 2:  the majority in this case is simply going along ill-informed and not using their own brain

Attack number 3:  i suspect the rooy cause of this mass stupidity is simply anti-Skip not intellect.

As for the rest of your post, parameters were provided, you just refuse to accept them.  As far as I am concerned, and it seems everybody else as well, if someone is listed with a role or under a group cast listing, they are cast.  Seems quite simple to me.

Fine, Martian, you have no answer as i suspected.