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De-Lovely "Musical Performers" Divider or not
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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So seeing that we "don't know more than the filmmakers", and the filmmakers call them "cast", I'm sure you'll diligently profile them as such. 

Indeed I would, but that applies only to THAT movie and does not carry over into any other film.

But of course: heaven forbid you'd actually use some common sense... For the rest of us, though, voice actors are exactly that: actors.

I do use Common Sense, Tim. That which is not listed within the cast List is NOT cast, unless there is something such as you described. That is Common Sense, it not YOUR Common sense, which is why I have always said Common sense does not apply because it is not Universal but is specific to each individual. Nice try though. And your Common Sense is NOT superior to MINE, what does that mean with respect to the Online, it means when Common sense becomes the issue such data should automatically be viewed in a local form, NOT the Online.

What that means in this instance, Tim, is if you want to use  your crystal ball, it should be locally and not Contributable.
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What that means in this instance, Tim, is if you want to use  your crystal ball, it should be locally and not Contributable.

Instead, I think I'll just follow the rules. You should try it some time.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Because your way is terrible, Tim, there is following the Rules, then there is EXCEEDING the minimums of the Rules, you should try it sometime. I don't want to buy the kind of house you would build, on a SAND foundation.
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Out of curiosity, I just downloaded the relevant profile to see what the changes would look like...

..and guess who submitted the cast information in the first place 
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After your post, I had to download it as well and I must say that I am shocked...all the musical performers, that we are being told are not cast, were entered as cast. 
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Not only that, but it's in the same order as IMDB's cast list and contains Lemar Obika (as on IMDB) instead of Lemar.

Edit: I'm sorry, but it really pisses me off. Here we are being accused over and over again of destroying/sabotaging/raping the database and now we discover for a second time that Skip has submitted IMDB data to the database.
Just how many of his 5023 contributions are going to have to be fixed? Just how much damage has he done to the database? 
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Out of curiosity, I just downloaded the relevant profile to see what the changes would look like...

..and guess who submitted the cast information in the first place 

Awesome.
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I think that is exactly the definition of the term pwnage!!




The musical performers are in the film, they appear onscreen, they're actors in the film. They appear in the cast list. That case closed. The only thing that remains is how to list them using headers because of the group listing they appear in during the film's closing credits, and THAT seems to have been tied up nicely as well. That case closed.

Seems like a done deal to me.


By the by, Sheryl Crow and Alanis Morissette?? They happy funtimeing rock my world.

*edit*

Happy funtimeing. That rocks... in kind of a sad, scary way... but still kind of rocks.
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*Edit*

Whoops!!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Not only that, but it's in the same order as IMDB's cast list and contains Lemar Obika (as on IMDB) instead of Lemar.

Edit: I'm sorry, but it really pisses me off. Here we are being accused over and over again of destroying/sabotaging/raping the database and now we discover for a second time that Skip has submitted IMDB data to the database.
Just how many of his 5023 contributions are going to have to be fixed? Just how much damage has he done to the database? 

Again, North with my collection in storage, thaT tells me that the Profile was last looked at by me sometime at Intervocative, probably very close to Christmas 2004, long  before the Rules and before i started playing aroubnd with ACTUAL credits in January 2005, was part of the automated transfer to here. So I'll thank you to keep your base less accusations to yourself.  It's in a box...either in storage or in my basement since i am beginning to pull out of the storage preparing for move. So, please by all means, remove the data you won't hurt my feelings at all, in fact it demonstrates rather the graphically the inaccuracy of another database if you ask me. You gotcha game is insulting and childish but i expect childish. Try to grow up. That goes for you too, Martian, I expect better from you and you as well James. Now shall I discredit you by goig and getting the exact date that the data was Contributed to intervocative, I can you know. I can tell you right now it was within a week of 12/21/2004, the Rules were adopted in July of 2005 and we did not begin the writing process until February 2005...nice try boys, you have succeeded again in showing yourselves to be copmplete horse's backsides.

There was a time when just like every other user I used IMDb, but stopped when it was discovered that Ken had forbidden their use. That does not mean that you will find none of the old data, just like you may still find some of the old Group W  prelim to the Rules.
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You hadn't looked at the profile since 2004 and yet you felt it was acceptable to submit it without checking in 2007, well after the rules were published?
That is shoddy, lazy contributing. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

After this you have no right, no right whatsoever to criticise the contributing practices of others.
No one else has ever taken a THREE YEAR OLD profile and submitted it blindly. You have done it. Twice. That we know of.

You also called me a liar when I said your database contained IMDB-mined data, well here's a prime example. Who's the liar now?

You talk about people in glass houses, well your's has just shattered matey!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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New Contribution


That's not automated.
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Even if it was not automated, everyone who was here when Invelos went live flooded the contribution system with their entire collections as fast as the server would take them. Most of the profiles were not up to the rules in effect at the time of the company change unless they were fairly recent Intervocative profiles.

So, while Skip contributed an old profile that was not 100% in line with the current rules, so did practically everyone else.
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Posted: March 14, 2007 2:51 AM

New Contribution


That's not automated.

Yes it is automated, the New Contribution was put in by Invelos system, the rest of it as described by Antolod.  Are you that desperate? You know north if your attempts weren't so pathetic it would be funny. I fell very sorry for you, you must be a miserable person. You know I am  for you.
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This thread went 0 to epic in 2 pages. 
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