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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Can anyone point out to me in the rules where distributor ratings are not acceptable.
It's not so much that it says that they're not acceptable, it's that (looking at the US only) they aren't available to be entered. Only the Film & TV systems are present. They certainly can't be entered in the Ratings Description as it's a Rating, not a Rating Description that's trying to be entered. Do I think that we should be able to enter them? Yes - I think that a 3rd system needs to be added to the US locality. Under the current system, do I think they can be entered? No |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forget:
The what do we do if Distributors all start releasing their own ratings, we now have an unmanageable system. Let's make it even worse, they not only do their own ratings, they also continue to include the MPAA Ratings. Now you have a system which would be worse than any conceived in Europe or anywhere else.
This reminds of when my grand-children came to stay the weekend and tried to watch an R movie, and told me that it was Ok with their parents...except this is not their parents house and it's not OK with the man that does own the house. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
The what do we do if Distributors all start releasing their own ratings, we now have an unmanageable system. Let's make it even worse, they not only do their own ratings, they also continue to include the MPAA Ratings.
Simply put, if it's a system that's widely used, which by the sound of it, this one is, it should be added IMHO. From what's been said, unlike the BBFC, the MPAA is only an optional advisory system. While more common place, it's no more or less valid than a system used by other distributors. As for which to include if both are shown, I'd do the same as for a title with an R & Unrated version included in the same release - Use the more restrictive rating. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is only to common to the product of that distributor, in that regard I suppose you could call it widely used, but that's a stretch. And as I said, since it is the Distributor rating their own product, what are their parameters, I would guess it is based upon what will generate the most sales for them.
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
While i don't approve of any rating body, even the MPAA, let alone agree with their ratings, they are at least a"formal" ratings body that is NOT , I repeat NOT affiliated with any Studio or Distributor. Quoting the MPAA website: Quote:
The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) serves its members from its offices in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. On its board of directors are the Chairmen and Presidents of the six major producers and distributors of motion picture and television programs in the United States. These members include:
Paramount Pictures Corporation;
Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc.;
Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation;
Universal City Studios LLLP;
Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures; and
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
Maybe I don't understand the word "affiliated". |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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The what do we do if Distributors all start releasing their own ratings, we now have an unmanageable system. Let's make it even worse, they not only do their own ratings, they also continue to include the MPAA Ratings.
Simply put, if it's a system that's widely used, which by the sound of it, this one is, it should be added IMHO. From what's been said, unlike the BBFC, the MPAA is only an optional advisory system. While more common place, it's no more or less valid than a system used by other distributors.
As for which to include if both are shown, I'd do the same as for a title with an R & Unrated version included in the same release - Use the more restrictive rating. While I don't agree with they should not (currently) be entered (until, of course, Ken or Gerri clear it up), I do agree with all of this. Ratings are not mandatory, and if a company posts a rating on their cover, it should be entered.  at (in the good way) RHo's reply. MPAA is most definitely affiliated with major studios, whether they admit to it or not. This Film Has Not Yet Been Rated shows how much so. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | They are participants in the , Rho. but they have no one on the ratings board. The ratuings board has always been made up of "normal" movie-going members of the public | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 922 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well for this topic I recommend the movie This Film is not yet rated:  | | | 
Deutsches DVD Profiler Forum: www.dvdprofiler-forum.de |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Alien:
At least you finally recognize it is outside the system as it is today. That's a plus. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Alien:
At least you finally recognize it is outside the system as it is today. That's a plus. Do you ever bother to read posts? Or do you make it up as you go along? Because I did no such thing. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You're right i misread your post, all too sadly. Well it makes no difference the data canniot be dealt with at this time as i have repeatedly explained. Your belief that it can is just a fiction, i don't know how you believe it could be unless you favor turning the data into nothing of value.  As i said mixing your non-MPAA data with MPAA is nothing less than a misrepresentation AT BEST | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
You're right i misread your post, all too sadly. Well it makes no difference the data canniot be dealt with at this time as i have repeatedly explained. Your belief that it can is just a fiction, i don't know how you believe it could be unless you favor turning the data into nothing of value. As i said mixing your non-MPAA data with MPAA is nothing less than a misrepresentation AT BEST Isn't tracking TV ratings, distinguishing between unrated and not rated (which we don't do yet, but you seemed to have no objection, etc mixing MPAA and non-MPAA info? I don't see how peopel can misread thsi as being MPAA info if it says not rated. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | UmmmAce, NR is not an MPAA rating. Their highest rating is NC-17 Nice try Not Rated and Unrated are essentially the SAME rating using a slightly different terminology. Becaus NR is not an MPAA rating there will also be NO details since they would have to be invented. Just keep on with your Don Quixote imitation, it is rather amusing watching you tilt at windmills, I just don't get why. Though I have my theories. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While I do agree that they are ratings, I believe the rules allow them to be placed in the Ratings Detail field. I would not, however, object to it being added to the rules...maybe for films with 'non-standard ratings'. Slight correction to the above post. It should read, "I don't believe the rules allow them to be placed in the Ratings Detail field." As Forget notes, they are ratings, not ratings details. Sorry for any confusion.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
UmmmAce, NR is not an MPAA rating. Their highest rating is NC-17 Nice try Not Rated and Unrated are essentially the SAME rating using a slightly different terminology. Becaus NR is not an MPAA rating there will also be NO details since they would have to be invented.
Just keep on with your Don Quixote imitation, it is rather amusing watching you tilt at windmills, I just don't get why. Though I have my theories. Do tell. My point is that NR and Unrated are the same thing as far as the MPAA are concerned, yet we are poised to make a distinction. Clearly, we don't just care about the MPAA. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I, for one, object to the change, Ace. That is because I am always consistent. Since NR and Unrated mean the same thing there is NO real NEED to make such a change.There may be a deisre on the part of some to make such a change, but there is not a NEED. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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