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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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Seeing how I wasn't even around when the rules were written, I'd have found it very difficult to "do anything"!!
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Quoting skipnet50:
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All you demonsttrate is your...you fill in the blank.

1) Charming personality
2) Engaging wit
3) Tolerance for intolerants

Take your pick 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I have also said REPEATEDLY, north, that were the shoe on your foot, i would be loath to tale the ultra combative and insulting attitude that you do and some other users take. The very FACT that you weren't here at the time, speaks volumes to your attitude...and NOT positively. So put your attitude down, SIR.

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D None of the above.

If you think you are tolerant then you are a comedian.

Skip
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So basically what you're saying, Skip, is that if I'm unsure of how to interpret the rules, I'm not allowed to ask if I'm doing the right thing, if the issue has ever been discussed before. Is that it?

You keep accusing people of things. "as usual you appear to be [looking for a fight]" you say. Well, I'd like to know if anyone except you think so? Where in this thread have I looked for a fight?
1) I asked if my interpretation was correct.
2) When told it wasn't I explained why I had thought my interpretation was right.
3) When I found I was in a minority I accepted it.
Where in this am I looking for a fight?

you, on the other hand, has written things like
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YOU decided the rules should not apply, God forbid you should actually follow them
which is an insulting accusation and a blatant lie. If I didn't want to follow the rules, why should I ask if I had interpreted them correctly?

Is there an unwritten law that if something has ever been discussed before it may never be asked again? Because it certainly isn't in the forum rules.
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So basically what you're saying, Skip, is that if I'm unsure of how to interpret the rules, I'm not allowed to ask if I'm doing the right thing, if the issue has ever been discussed before. Is that it?

Don't ask skip, he is just a normal user, just like all the rest of us. The only people that can say otherwise are the Coles.
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You keep accusing people of things. "as usual you appear to be [looking for a fight]" you say. Well, I'd like to know if anyone except you think so? Where in this thread have I looked for a fight?
1) I asked if my interpretation was correct.
2) When told it wasn't I explained why I had thought my interpretation was right.
3) When I found I was in a minority I accepted it.
Where in this am I looking for a fight?

I would say that you did nothing wrong, but I am just a normal user like you and skip.
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you, on the other hand, has written things like
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YOU decided the rules should not apply, God forbid you should actually follow them
which is an insulting accusation and a blatant lie. If I didn't want to follow the rules, why should I ask if I had interpreted them correctly?

Once again, Skip, like the rest of us, is just a normal user. His thoughts have no more weight than yours or mine.
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Is there an unwritten law that if something has ever been discussed before it may never be asked again? Because it certainly isn't in the forum rules.

Of course there isn't. If skip or any other user is tired of reading threads with questions like this, they don't have to. But you, like any other user have the right to ask, until the Coles take that right away!

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Paul Francis
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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So basically what you're saying, Skip, is that if I'm unsure of how to interpret the rules, I'm not allowed to ask if I'm doing the right thing, if the issue has ever been discussed before. Is that it?

You keep accusing people of things. "as usual you appear to be [looking for a fight]" you say. Well, I'd like to know if anyone except you think so? Where in this thread have I looked for a fight?
1) I asked if my interpretation was correct.
2) When told it wasn't I explained why I had thought my interpretation was right.
3) When I found I was in a minority I accepted it.
Where in this am I looking for a fight?

you, on the other hand, has written things like
Quote:
YOU decided the rules should not apply, God forbid you should actually follow them
which is an insulting accusation and a blatant lie. If I didn't want to follow the rules, why should I ask if I had interpreted them correctly?

Is there an unwritten law that if something has ever been discussed before it may never be asked again? Because it certainly isn't in the forum rules.


Gunnar:

In your OP you wrote:

"I entered this as OMB for Linaweaver and Screenwriter for the rest. Does that seem correct?"

Which to me was a bit BEYOND what you are claiming. The implication to me was that you had or were planning on Contributing bad data. You know i do't care what you do locally, you can call it whatever you want there, but the implication was otherwise.

Talk about paying no attention to the drivel of a user like pdf who can only be a something I don't want to say, but he is definitely not a very pleasant person under any circumstance. Paul, whatever you hostility issues are do ALL of us a favor and keep them ouit of these forums...PLEASE. EVERY one of your posts is combative, attacking and insulting, i hope one day to see a change in your attitude but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Skip
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Billy Video
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Quoting GSyren:
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So basically what you're saying, Skip, is that if I'm unsure of how to interpret the rules, I'm not allowed to ask if I'm doing the right thing, if the issue has ever been discussed before. Is that it?

You keep accusing people of things. "as usual you appear to be [looking for a fight]" you say. Well, I'd like to know if anyone except you think so? Where in this thread have I looked for a fight?
1) I asked if my interpretation was correct.
2) When told it wasn't I explained why I had thought my interpretation was right.
3) When I found I was in a minority I accepted it.
Where in this am I looking for a fight?

you, on the other hand, has written things like
Quote:
YOU decided the rules should not apply, God forbid you should actually follow them
which is an insulting accusation and a blatant lie. If I didn't want to follow the rules, why should I ask if I had interpreted them correctly?

Is there an unwritten law that if something has ever been discussed before it may never be asked again? Because it certainly isn't in the forum rules.


Gunnar:

In your OP you wrote:

"I entered this as OMB for Linaweaver and Screenwriter for the rest. Does that seem correct?"

Which to me was a bit BEYOND what you are claiming. The implication to me was that you had or were planning on Contributing bad data. You know i do't care what you do locally, you can call it whatever you want there, but the implication was otherwise.

Talk about paying no attention to the drivel of a user like pdf who can only be a something I don't want to say, but he is definitely not a very pleasant person under any circumstance. Paul, whatever you hostility issues are do ALL of us a favor and keep them ouit of these forums...PLEASE. EVERY one of your posts is combative, attacking and insulting, i hope one day to see a change in your attitude but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Skip

Skip, I learned from the best ... you.

As you have shown time and time again, never let the facts get in the way of posting your opinion.

You have shown clearly in this thread that you want to read bad intent into the work of others. You might ask yourself why you see every question as an attack on the database and/or the rules.

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Paul Francis
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I do all the time, paul, unfortunately the attitiude of users like yourself provide an answer i don't like but one that consistently appears to be true, to my own personal chagrin.

Skip
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Skip,

How does the phrase "Does that seem correct?" suggest to you that I planned to contribute this even if I were told that it is not correct??? 
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Gunnar:

I am sorry. amigo, your defense falls flat and comes off like you are looking for a fight. I MIGHT be able to buy it, except for one very small detail, there have been NUMEROUS discussions on this precise issue, not just one, and i frankly find it difficult to believe you were not aware of it. In fact I rather imagine that if i went back and checked i would find you attempting to use exactly the same argument you employed in this version, you are simply too active a user for me to believe you have not seen these discussions before. Which leads me to ask why. I don't wish to argue with you and i don't really care what the defense of your position is, as I have said it has been this way for three years and will remain so until Ken makes some crediting mods, and you KNOW I will NEVER EVER accept the concept of XXXXX might mean this under this set of circumstances but it might mean THAT under this set. Multiple definitions does lead to confusion on the part of users, as you yourself should be aware, since it is EXACTLY a multiple definition you were attempting to apply.

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I will NEVER EVER accept the concept of XXXXX might mean this under this set of circumstances but it might mean THAT under this set.

For the record, though: that is exactly what we ARE doing. The method as supported by the majority of the community - well, at least by a few of the more vocal members - results in us being true to the on-screen CREDIT, not so much to these people's actual jobs. If a screenwriter is credited as screenwriter, we enter him as such, yet if a screenwriter is credited as writer, we use that. While I perfectly understand WHY we're doing so (and I'm doing so as well - no need to convince me), I can't help but feeling it diminishes the meaning and value of the data: if I see someone has a "writer" credit in DVD Profiler, I cannot be sure what it means. It just means that he was credited as a "writer", but he might as well been a screenwriter in reality, and the reverse also happens (I've seen "writer" combined with "original material by" and I've seen sole "screenplay" credits for absolutely original screenplays). We're using the same label for different jobs. So unfortunately, what you're saying EXACTLY applies to the method we're using.
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Gunnar:

I am sorry. amigo, your defense falls flat and comes off like you are looking for a fight. I MIGHT be able to buy it, except for one very small detail, there have been NUMEROUS discussions on this precise issue, not just one, and i frankly find it difficult to believe you were not aware of it. In fact I rather imagine that if i went back and checked i would find you attempting to use exactly the same argument you employed in this version, you are simply too active a user for me to believe you have not seen these discussions before. Which leads me to ask why. I don't wish to argue with you and i don't really care what the defense of your position is, as I have said it has been this way for three years and will remain so until Ken makes some crediting mods, and you KNOW I will NEVER EVER accept the concept of XXXXX might mean this under this set of circumstances but it might mean THAT under this set. Multiple definitions does lead to confusion on the part of users, as you yourself should be aware, since it is EXACTLY a multiple definition you were attempting to apply.

Skip


So, the fact that you think that I have read the previous discussions and you believe that I have used this argument before is your reason for attacking me here, without bothering to check if I were active in the previous discussions? And you accuse other people here of being unpleasant...?   
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Gunnar:

I am not going to waste further time with your baiting.

Tim:

No you don't understand. Imagine if you will sir, that we had the ability to enter the data as OPEN credits. what would you type, you too Gunnar. Would you be jumping up and down screaming about Screenplays and such, OR would you just be typing Written by with absolutely nothing further. Would a belief on your part that it was a screenplay have ANY relevance...NO it would not. If we had OPEN credits you would be typing Written by and anything other comment would be completely irrelevant and ridiculous. We hjave the same issue, the Credit is Written by and the chart tells you where Written by goes attempts to rationalizew it some other way are specious on their face and attempts to to try and create TWO different definitions for Written by and simply ridiculous. As usual, gunnar you are being argumentative and combative in an attempt to rationalize the irrational.

I also did not say anything like what you think I said. trust me, gunnar, if I went back and looked up the previous discussions and found your involvement i would be more than simply annoyed, in fact anger would not even cover it. You don't want me to do that.

Skip
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I am not going to waste further time with your baiting.

Skipspeak for "I have no more excuses". 
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Gunnar
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Gunnarspeak for baiting.

You have my permission to reamain just as confused and make things just as difficult as you wish, gunnar. I am fed up and tired with your total unwillingness to ever accept anything without turning into some form of fight.

Skip
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