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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsnarbo
Registered: March 13, 2007
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And just where are you getting the cast info from since third party DB's aren't allowed as per the rules?

Steve
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As I noted Steve, and I even provided an example...I don't add roles. Any cast and crew data comes from my memory...old as it is. 

For example
Superman
Richard Donner Director
John Williams Composer

Christopher Reeve
Margot Kidder
Gene Hackman
New Beatty
Valerie Perrine
Marlon Brando
Susannah York

That is all directly from my memory, without prompting of any kind even from Profiler, notice I did not include roles.

Skip
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Billy Video
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Here's a point in case for you then, concerning cast credits.

James bond film "The Living Daylights" Special Edition version, when it was first released on DVD in the UK two of the Actors had not given permission to use there names for the DVD, the initial release was pulled off the shop floor with immediate effect after just one day, it took the company months to try and get permission from the two, but they only succeeded with one of them, so out there in UK DVD land there are a few people who are luck enough to have some rare compared to the majority, unfortuneately I'm not one of them, as they were pulling the disc's when I went into the shops around me at the time.

One of the Actors was the star "Timothy Dalton" the other I never did find out about. So like the rules state you should only take the credits from the source.

Steve

not directed at you Skip, looks like I was typing at the same time.
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That's an interesting bit of trivia, Steve. I gather there was some bad blood between Dalton and Eon Productions, that's what it sounds like anyway.

BTW I see no indication of that from my copies both of which were personally setup by me, Dalton was listed on both covers and in the film credits.

But still interesting.

Skip
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Yes took them quite a bit of time for Dalton's approval, but as said still haven't been able to find how the second name was, so there are some first day releases that were sold with credits that nobody else here in the UK have, Collector's item or what?

Just my luck, I was out of the Country on the first day, got home around midnight went straight up the town the following morning only to be denied a purchase, had too wait about six months to complete the collection, they were being released one a week or one a fortnight at the time of first release.

Steve
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So like the rules state you should only take the credits from the source.


But the topic is about Pre-Releases not films that have been released to the public. I put the pre-release info into my wish list. When the dvd is release to the public, I then update all the info from the dvd and submit the changes.
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Quoting Dragon 6:
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So like the rules state you should only take the credits from the source.


But the topic is about Pre-Releases not films that have been released to the public. I put the pre-release info into my wish list. When the dvd is release to the public, I then update all the info from the dvd and submit the changes.


Likewise, but until the DVD is released you cannot get cast/crew info, unless you are getting it from a third party DB, can you.

I too frequently use my wishlist, currently hold some 800 titles, some have been released so therefore those profiles should be as up-to-date as user have submitted. But as I staed earlier, I have some that for the moment are manual profiles, as they are only just out in the cinema's / still in production, how could I submit cast / crew for those...see my post "Here's a point in case"

Or even the loss of one of the actors during production of Heath Ledger / Batman: The Dark Knight.
Anything could happen and does.

Steve
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Point taken, but in the case of "Heath Ledger / Batman: The Dark Knight" he is still in the film and will be on the dvd when released.

When a film gets close to being release you can get info from production companies to include UPC numbers and release dates. For example the new Indiana Jones movie has two actors that I now are in the film, Harrison Ford and Shia LaBeouf. So if I had the UPC and the official release date I could submit a basic pre-release of the film with two actors listed.
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However, Steve pre-release is pre-release and by its nature is subject to all kinds of changes right up to the point that it is no longer pre-release.

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What I usually contribute is any pre-release artwork, SRP, release date and if I know some of the actors involved, I'll contibute those as well. Like Skip, I also mention in my notes that this is a pre-release contribution.

Now I won't edit a pre-release that someone else has already contributed, unless I find a discrepency in the SRP, if the release date changes or if the artwork changes before it gets released. Now if the DVD is going to be released the following week, I won't touch it until someone contributes it or if I contribute it.
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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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In order to prevent users to submit information who do not use the DVD itself as the authoritative source for information, pre-release contributions should not be allowed. Furthermore, submitting new profiles and changes to accepted profiles should only be possible with an inserted disc, and the containing ID should always be sent as a verification method.

At this time there is no way to add disk-ids for BluRay (and HDdvd) disks. If we switched to this system there would be no way to add any BluRay profiles to the system!

As someone that has just started to buy BluRay disks, I would find this a problem. 

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I really do hope that was one of Martin's often sarcastic comments - such as suggesting TT as title for the movie Pi.
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Maybe I overreacted, but I really do feel there should be better way to check if someone has submitted the correct data. I know the screeners can see the reliability statistics, but we just have to guess or know from experience if a contributor is trustworthy.
Martin Zuidervliet

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Martin:

I share your concern to some degree. But there is abig difference between a user like myself who documents everything he does and where the data comes from and a user who just says "New Contributiuon" But to some degree I also have to trust my own sources for pre-release information based on experience,  I don't have a disc in my hand. The sources that I use , I have many years experience at using them to determine whether they can be trusted to supply me with a correct UPC #, I don't use just ANYBODY I can find, there are even distributors who will create their own UPC #s, years of experience tells me which UPC sets belong to which DVD Distribution Units for example Fox HE is 024543-xxxxxx, so if I see some other UPC supposedly related to Fox, I am skeptical.

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And just where are you getting the cast info from since third party DB's aren't allowed as per the rules?

Steve


I'm not sure who you are talking to since you have forgotten to use quotes. But I don't need a third party database to tell me that Ellen Page was in Juno for instance.
Paul
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Now whether this would be considered acceptable or not for pre-releases I am not 100% sure but what I always did was take the actor names (not character names) from the Studio Press Release when available to us. And it always went through just fine.
Pete
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