Quoting Giga Wizard:

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In the other thread I already documented that Francois does exist and is used.
DVD Profiler "Credited As" Name Database

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Francois in the UK
Francois in Holland
Francois in Belgium
Francois in Germany

But the guy we are talking about is French, not British or German. 

Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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Every locality uses a different language and why should anybody care it's French if they only have to use their standard capitalization?

Because someday around 2099 we want to have a working linking system?

The only way to go is to document the name if possible as have been done in some threads. then change the common name accordingly to the correct name. And use the credited as feature where necessary.

Quoting RHo:

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No rules change is needed.

Quoting RHo:

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The language of the name is relevant for that purpose.

A certain name can be written differently in different countries and every country has its own capitalization rules for names and therefore the rule needs to be changed so it appears the same way in every locality.

List the name as you see iot On Screen, that is what the Rule say, that was the intent., I don't give a flip about them being french, german, Hungarian or whatever. Can your nationalistic pride and get oiver it. Follow the Rules. we have a method for you to hanmdle all the nationalistic gatbage. We do the culture the film shows. Nothing more nothing less.

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It's not nationalistic nor garbage. It's an effort to create a database to serve everyone. If you do not give a "flip" about other languages, it's you who is nationalistic not us.

Martin and others:

The Rules are an attempt to get everyone on the same page, hence list the data as you SEE it not as YOU think it should be. There are ways to deal with what YOU think. The database is not isolated. That is to say that there is not French database that is isolated from the rest of the database. Were that true then the French could apply whatever Rules they wished to their part of the database, the Gemans and so forth. But they are not, hence whatever you do, affects EVERY other user in the world and having to apply your cultural makes a mess for EVERYONE. That is why trhe Rules say what they say, there is one thing to consider and that is what is ON Screen. I don't see any value in setting up Regional databases which are isolated one from the other, except for the anarchists that don't want to follow the Rules or want to be able to apply their own Rule. As lkong as we have one single database that affects all users then we have what we have, of necessity. We should be working as a TEAM, not as a bunch of disparate, petty children all pulling in their own direction on the rope. I apply the SAME Rule to whatever film I am working on, which means the same thing regardless of the film's origin,  if it is French I copy what I SEE On Screen, if it is German I copy what I see On Screen. Yes there are character sets that we can't deal with effectively, at least not now, that is a problem which must be solved SOMEHOW, personally I haven't run into such character sets yet, though i know they are out there. The closest I have come to this is a few Japanese films which, at least so far have employed BOTH Japanese character sets and English.

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Martin:

I agree with you what you are saying basically and that is the objective. Even the reference to using FRANCOIS and Francois that was the whole purpose for that. In some fims you get a mis of ALL caps and standard cap, which it was felt looks bad. That simple.

I don't cry a when I  edit a French film, for example, that the data should appear some way other than the way that it appears On Screen. I simply do it. That is all you have to do.


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