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And your method ignores that we already have a Rule and you want to not just change it but undo it.

And you, unfortunately, are ignoring the fact that the rule we have makes absolutely no sense.  It says to use 'standard capitalization rules'.  Two problems with that.  First, capitalization rules are not universals.  What is standard for you, is not standard for Surfeur.  Second, there is no standard capitalization rule that tells you how to convert names, that are in all uppercase, into mixed case.  I am sorry, but there aren't.  There are spelling and grammar rules, even common practice, but no hard and fast rule that you can point to.  That, is why there was so much confusion back in '08, and that is why Ken made his clarification.

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And your method ignores that we already have a Rule and you want to not just change it but undo it.

JHal you aren't that stupid. You just want to argue. I am asking for a mod to the way we handle CA so that Yves and others can have what they want. That is a win-win.   Sometimes, Hal, sometimes<shakes head in utter amazement>

No, actually, we do not have a Rule at all.  Nowhere in the Rules is there any language telling us how to convert all caps to mixed case.

What there is, is a statement by Ken in these forums about how he thinks it should be done.  Yes, such a statement probably carries the weight of a "real" Rule, but technically, it's not in the Rules.

Your asking for a mod to the CA system (which you have not clearly defined, even though I have asked you to).  The CA system which is defined in the Rules.

So, let me get this straight.  It's perfectly OK for you to ask for a change to the existing Rules, but I'm out of line when I ask Ken to change his position on a statement that he made in the forums that's not in the Rules.

OK.  I get it now.

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Sure the poor Skip game again, let me cry a river


Never said that!!!! You sure make it sounds like you are the one who take the decision here wich was never the case... Like I wrote it's a waste of time to try to discuss anything with you, so I can't understand why everyone loose their with you...

It's funny that you accuse me of harassing you since I've took your side many times. But the attitude you had for some time is just indefensible.

In place of thinking that everybody is after you maybe you should take the time to look at yourself and at how you write.

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All you want to do is argue, that is it. I can't make any further coments for you. I have repeatedly explained how the system I have suggested would function, i suggest you go research it . it's out there. you have split my last hair and i am trying hard not to explode. I guess I really have given you far too much credit.

I could understand your confusion, hal, if it were rocket science....but it is not. In fact, it is incredibly easy and simple beyond belief.

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I am willing to allow for  international usage as it relates to capitalization,

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So for example you might see a Francois and a François the same Credit list, or a Jose and a José. These aren't common but they are out there. I wish i could think of one right this second but i have seen a number of such and i am certain that we all have.

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It muight not make sense to you, but it does make sense. In fact, it makes perfect sense. Now any further remarks I might make would likely be viewed as insulting. but then you are treading pretty close yourself.

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but capitalization does NOT include diacriticals.

Ummm, yes it does. Maybe in English it's irrelevant, but in other languages it is.