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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
Registered: March 14, 2007
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I pity any newbie starting out here. Too many hurdles to jump over and too many bottoms to kiss.

Still, the program's great isn't it! 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRizor
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Rizor  :  Absolutely. I scanned in the bar code and used the profile that it brought up. I "misspoke" in my earlier post and said Target - I have the Best Buy version. I tried again following the front-back suggestion from several folks - but I may have contaminated the submission by including Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan. I'm not sure if cast or crew should be added for box sets and I can't figure out how to add or import movies into box sets that don't include them. I know there's a way because some sets have little + signs which open out to reveal the included movies. In my personal collection, I've taken to adding the individual movies separately and setting the empty box set count to zero - but I'd rather put the movies in the box. Anyway, I asked for comments if I screwed up the sub. Am I building a bad reputation by early rejections as I learn the ropes? 
Parent profiles for box sets shouldn't have cast & crew entered. These are mostly blank holders for the child profiles (the actual movie discs). If a parent profile has child profiles linked to it, you should be able to download them by going to Online -> Refresh DVD from Invelos -> Check for Child Profiles... If nothing comes up, you can add the movies manually as you've done, then edit the parent profile and select the "Box Set Contents" tab on the left. Then choose/search for the titles from the list and click assign, and then OK.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStaNDarD
Registered: March 31, 2007
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The good news is that these issues can usually be corrected once you know there are multiple "Bill Smiths".

Only if you know the birthyears and/or common names to all of them...

Wrong!
No one asks you to correct all errors in one go.
Fix those you can. Leave the other problems to those that can (and/or need to) solve them.
E.G. If I know of only 2 Bill Smith in my database, why should I care to find the birthyears for the others.

Well, OK. You can solve your private issue, when you know at least one birthyear less than persons sharing the same name in your private database.
Or you can use fake-birthyears to split them and lose you're right to contribute.

But this is not about your private database, it's about the online database...

So my statement still stays:
I can't correct this issue once I know there are multiple persons sharing the same name.
I can correct this issue when I know birthyears and/or common names for these persons.

Even worse: to really solve this issue, I would have to re-contribute all existing profiles these persons are involved with corrected data.

In my private database I don't have these issues due to excessive use of fake- and real-birthyears, so I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
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In my private database I don't have these issues due to excessive use of fake- and real-birthyears, so I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.

Yes, it gives one a great sense of freedom, doesn't it?

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorScooter1836
Registered: October 30, 2011
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In my private database I don't have these issues due to excessive use of fake- and real-birthyears, so I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.


So why can't you contribute because of extra BY's in your local, fake or not.  Just don't check the box to contribute the particular BY.  I do it all the time.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStaNDarD
Registered: March 31, 2007
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In my private database I don't have these issues due to excessive use of fake- and real-birthyears, so I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.


So why can't you contribute because of extra BY's in your local, fake or not.  Just don't check the box to contribute the particular BY.  I do it all the time.

That's because I have a lot of real birthyears, which exist in the online database, but are not allowed by the rules - and there's no checkbox for those.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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In my private database I don't have these issues due to excessive use of fake- and real-birthyears, so I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.


So why can't you contribute because of extra BY's in your local, fake or not.  Just don't check the box to contribute the particular BY.  I do it all the time.

That's because I have a lot of real birthyears, which exist in the online database, but are not allowed by the rules - and there's no checkbox for those.


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If they are in the maindatabase already and are needed to distinguish between different cast-/crew members of the same name these BYs already got approved by Invelos.
Further documentation is not required.

Since the participation in the "Accepted Birthyears"-thread is NOT mandatory you can safely assume that the necessary documentation was provided by the original contributor of the BY.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
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There is several that are in the main database that are not needed (even another thread dedicated to these)... just because there is no check box don't mean that the birth year is correct per rules. So while you are right that participation in the birth year thread is not required. If you are adding a birth year with no documentation what so ever.... it will draw no votes. Whether it is already in the main database or not. Don't mean the birth year is correct per the rules for that profile.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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Please note my given premise for the statement

BY has to be necessary (Means: NOT unvalid according to the rules) AND already in the database.

In such cases (IMO and experience) a "Added previously accepted BY to John Doe" completely suffices.

But actually I can see StaNDarD's point regarding BY's, just not in the cases he gave in his example.

I too do not contribute new Birthyears, even if they are needed.
First of all because I use a different (much easier) differentiation-system for my local database, but too, because getting a BY accepted is far too complicated for my taste.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStaNDarD
Registered: March 31, 2007
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Please note my given premise for the statement

BY has to be necessary (Means: NOT unvalid according to the rules) AND already in the database.

In such cases (IMO and experience) a "Added previously accepted BY to John Doe" completely suffices.

That's correct, but as I said, my database has lots of real birthyears which are not allowed per the rules.
And some of them are available in the online database so that I don't get a checkbox for them when I try to contribute.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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Please note my given premise for the statement

BY has to be necessary (Means: NOT unvalid according to the rules) AND already in the database.

In such cases (IMO and experience) a "Added previously accepted BY to John Doe" completely suffices.

That's correct, but as I said, my database has lots of real birthyears which are not allowed per the rules.
And some of them are available in the online database so that I don't get a checkbox for them when I try to contribute.


Sorry,
I don't get it:
How can a "real" and required BY that is already present in the maindatabase be against the rules?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStaNDarD
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...double post...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStaNDarD
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I never said that all my birthyears are required. I just like to have them...

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Since the participation in the "Accepted Birthyears"-thread is NOT mandatory you can safely assume that the necessary documentation was provided by the original contributor of the BY.

Having a birthyear in the online database doesn't mean the necessary documentation as been given...
Even if it has been given, the need for it might have been gone, because of a change of a common name. ;-)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Sorry,
I don't get it:
How can a "real" and required BY that is already present in the maindatabase be against the rules?

He didn't say 'required', just real.  A few peopel, for reason I don't quite understand, like to have the BYs for actors whether or not they are needed.

Edit: I see StaNDarD beat me to it.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsurfeur51
Since July 3, 2003
Registered: March 29, 2007
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  A few peopel, for reason I don't quite understand, like to have the BYs for actors whether or not they are needed.
BY is an interesting information connected with headshots. For example, when you are looking for a specific headshot for an actor to illustrate a specific movie, it is important to know if in this movie he was a baby, a child, a young man or an old man, specially if this actor is not well known, and if he is not clearly recognizable on screen captures.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
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I have done hundreds of profiles over the last few months with most of them containing multiple corrections. Very few of them received "no" votes and only a handful contained Cast or Crew data.

The database would be greatly improved if everyone just contributed basic, undebated data. Wouldn't it be great if people everyone fixed only that data in their local collection and shared it with the community?

Once that is done, one can go back to debating the other, more complex issues. Based on the amount of time spent going through my collection, it might be years before the debating starts up again!
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