Bullying, frankly I am tired of your own insulting and bullying behavior. You dont care how you damage the database you want things your way and you want them right now, always. All I do is try to help and provide the best info i can and for that I bully. You sir a full of it

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A film has a certain cast and that doesn't change. What might change is the the way they are depicted on the release - different language for the credits or even perhaps a typo in a cast members name, but a film, once done does have a set cast.

I will never agree with you about the rules as they are never followed now. I can attest to the fact that a majority of every "new" release I buy, even if I buy it on the day of release will already have an entry in the database that was done beforehand (because someone had it in their wishlist or on pre-order) and that entry already has the the cast and crew listed. it's fairly obvious most people are not following the rules per se if they are submitting this and they don't even have a physical copy in their hand.

Thus in my mind, we are better off trying to at least get the correct cast/crew right first and if there is a discrepancy due to typo's or some other matter then people can submit that. I agree what we really need is supplemental section to the cast and crew in the database - but that's likely to not happen.

This is nothing new. Film based credits have been suggested many times in the past but nothing has come of it. I believe we are stuck with the current system. It's a pity though, because even considering the rare exceptions (that btw could easily be handled locally), it would no doubt improve the accuracy of the database immensly. Instead we have a system where nearly every profile of the same film differs in some way from the others. It doesn't matter if we copy the screen credits or copy and paste existing profiles since everyone will enter data slightly differently, even if you think that it's "correct". There are just too many ambigous points in the rules to make it a reality.

So let me get this straight. I present arguments an back them up, sometimes I even try to pmiddle ground if possible. But no I get nothing that indicates understanding, I get waaaaaaaah I want to do it MY way. Answer NO, then people start throwing insulting remarks at me and I am the bad guy. Sirry, while your comment is so typical of you, it is unacceptable. Grow up kid.

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I actually think he is proposing doing what T!M does...

and by doing so he inserts a lot of false data... this is even forbidden by the rules to do the cast/crew of a profile when you don't own a DVD to get a visual confirmation. But that will always be a problem untill the software request to have the dvd in the computer to contribute some fields of a profile.

Actually, it's not...against the rules I mean.  In this post, Ken said, "Taking another case, if a particular locality has blank or limited cast info, and the submitter would like to fill it in with their verified cast from their own locality, I would tend to allow the voters who actually own the submitted locality to make the call.  However, the submitted contribution notes should clearly indicate that the cast is from the other locality, so that the voters and contribution evaluators can make an informed choice."

Now, as you can see, he did put limits on it...if a particular locality has blank or limited cast info...and said that the notes should clearly indicate that the data came from a different locality, those people who do this completely ignore that.

Yes I know that they do, matian and that is troubling.

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Sorry I have to disagree with you here in the most part. A film has a certain cast and that doesn't change. What might change is the the way they are depicted on the release - different language for the credits or even perhaps a typo in a cast members name, but a film, once done does have a set cast.

I am sorry to say that, this isn't always true.  Take ConAir as an example.  When the film was first made, Dave Chappelle wasn't very famous and he was credited as 'David'.  The original DVD release contained that credit.  In subsequent releases, because he did become famous, the credit was changed to 'Dave'.

Screen shot here.

No program can be everything to everyone. As long as I've been a member there has always been issues that come up in which even the most senior members do not agree on one "correct" answer.

The rules and Kens pinned forum contribution comments need to be followed to the best of your ability. But, even those can be viewed differently depending on one's interpretation of them.

This thread illustrates these points perfectly: Old thread. Thank you KinoNiki for finding it.

The forums is a good place to get additional input on any questions you may have. But, no one has the right to tell you what "must" be done except for Ken Cole or invelos.

No one should feel that they are being attacked. This program needs its contributors - it is a user built program. The loss of a community member and their contributions should be avoided at all costs.

But, harassment is not only socially unacceptable, it violates invelos own guidelines and rules regarding the use of the public forums.

If someone makes you feel that you are being harassed there are several things you can do.

First, give the person(s) a negative rating using the red arrow.

Secondly, you can send a support ticket to invelos, alert them of the offending threads and request that some action be taken.

Finally, there is a mechanism to block anyone whose posts you do not wish to read. Go to My Profiler > Blocked User. Type in the person(s) name and submit.

I find that these steps have helped me in the past when I felt that posts in the forums violated invelos policies.

Personally, I enjoy reading things from a new perspective. I hope that you continue to post and contribute long into the future.

Al far as the online database, I think you have done an excellent job with your contributions - much better than I ever did when I first started contributing. Keep up the good work.

Skip -

Please block me.

As usual you read the posts with Skipvision which has no basis in reality.

I have the right to post on these forums. And, if you  read my post carefully you will see that NOT ONCE did I make an inflammatory or insulting remark.

Yet you claim I did - show me. Please quote me so that I do not miss exactly which comments you find to be "inflammatory and insulting remarks" Of course you can't because there aren't any.

"Thought police" - give me a break. If there is any one person who wants their way, and only their way, it is you.

Why don't you take a good look in the mirror Skip - you are already on the verge of making another community member leave.

Personally, and in regards to you and your forum posts, I wish you had never come back.

I find you to be a rude unrepentant bully and I want you to LEAVE ME ALONE.

Edit: I am following my own "thought police" advice am going to block the only person whose posts, both now and in the past, I find so offensive I prefer to not read them. Skip - you are blocked.