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a question. Why should a disc of special features be treated any differently than special features included with a movie on one disc. What constitutes a special feature, this needs answering. Why would we not want to include runyimes for any and all trailers. Would we not want more specific information on these features. To give meaning to the runtime.

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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There is a couple reasons I can think of off the top of my head. Mark it watched when I watch that specific disc. Just like any other disc in the set. And so that you can know just with a glance which of the  features are on the disc.

I can see your point about marking watched.  I put notes in my history for that and when I watch all the features and then rate the profile for overall (including special features).  That is, except for profiles I have treated thusly:

In my own collection, when I am of a mind to work on it, I add manual child profiles for the more "significant" bonus features:  making-of and other featurettes (not the puff pieces so much); but especially short subjects and TV episodes on related topics which are included on the disc.  (A lot of them stay as "shell" profiles with the bare minimum--typically Title, Year, Runtime--but some I do Cast, Crew, Studios, etc.)  Those that had "a life of their own"--TV airing or theatrical release, I "Count As" 1 each; those made for the disc I don't count.

To echo Ace, I would love to see film based profiles supported to handle these so that, for example, when Warehouse 13 S2 is updated, Eureka S4.0 will be effectively updated with the episode details of the bonus episode of Warehouse 13 included therein.

Quoting CalebAndCo:

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I don't understand.  It doesn't make sense to me that a special features disc is, effectively, on the same level as a movie disc in the box set.  In my way of thinking, it belongs to the whole set.  (Please don't think me argumentative; I'm just trying to understand.)

How would you represent that, though? You have to either list it like any other disc in the set or make the movies children of a profile of the special features discs. The former is less confusing and you can just mess with the counts in the personalization screen.

Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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Quoting CalebAndCo:

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I don't understand.  It doesn't make sense to me that a special features disc is, effectively, on the same level as a movie disc in the box set.  In my way of thinking, it belongs to the whole set.  (Please don't think me argumentative; I'm just trying to understand.)

How would you represent that, though? You have to either list it like any other disc in the set or make the movies children of a profile of the special features discs. The former is less confusing and you can just mess with the counts in the personalization screen.

-Movie Boxset - UPC 123456... - parent profile, disc info for bonus features disc in Discs section and list special features in Features section (no effect on Runtime, btw).
-Movie 1 - Disc ID 1 - child profile, disc info in Discs section
-Movie 2 - Disc ID 2 - child profile, disc info in Discs section
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Another point/question regarding discs that are special features only.  What about the exclusive discs?

By this, I mean those discs you get when you buy a DVD at a certain shop.  Such as Game of Thrones blu had different exclusive bonus discs at Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy.  Inside Man DVD had one at Best Buy.  Etc.

Those discs are permitted as profiles (just add by title and type "bonus disc" or "exclusive disc" and you get a list).  So, if we do not list the runtime for special features, should these discs also be listed as a runtime of 0?  And, if so, why?

And by why, I mean the rationale, not a simple "the rules" but an actual reason behind that.

It seems up me that a total runtome of special features is near worthless. Would it not be better to have information regarding each grsturette, trailer etc. And runtimes attached to each. That seems far more useful and functional than just 300 mins of what exactly. Which was why we exlided bonus materials from the discussion. The program was not and still is not configured to adequately deal with this data. Maybe 3.8 or 4.0 might address this inherent weakness, in my view, in the program.

Quoting CalebAndCo:

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General question:  what is the reasoning and advantage for profiling special features only discs separately instead of just having that disc ID on the box set parent profile?

"Because we can"
Some people, me included, like to have such "only bonus material"-profiles. If someone doesn't want this profile it is easier for him to delete it in his collection than it would be for me (and every like-minded) to each enter it ourselves.

cya, Mithi

Quoting Winston Smith:

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It seems up me that a total runtome of special features is near worthless. Would it not be better to have information regarding each grsturette, trailer etc. And runtimes attached to each. That seems far more useful and functional than just 300 mins of what exactly. Which was why we exlided bonus materials from the discussion. The program was not and still is not configured to adequately deal with this data. Maybe 3.8 or 4.0 might address this inherent weakness, in my view, in the program.

You didn't exile bonus material completely as the rules, since 2005, tell us to create a profile for the ones included in Box Sets.  Since they do, it might be a good idea to explain what is and isn't allowed in that profile.