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If the change is not properly documented in the users Contribution Notes then it would get a no vote from me even if the data were correct.

Glad to know where the priorities are.   

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Quoting Bad Father:

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If the change is not properly documented in the users Contribution Notes then it would get a no vote from me even if the data were correct.

Glad to know where the priorities are.   

Sad to know where yours are. You have no interest apparently in developing a first class product that is accurate and reliiable. You will settle for some data is better than no data. I want to see Profiler be the best in the world, I want Ken to have the ability to have a product that is recognized for is quality and as a result he can develop multiple income streams by licensing the use of the data, but some of us simply could care less about the caliber of the program or the quality of the product.

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In this case I would look up the BY data, copy the link and paste in the space next to my "yes" vote.
I would also send a pm to the contributor so that they are aware of the situation and can edit the profile to add the link from the BY thread.

If there isn't a BY thread then I might as Kulju has done in this thread, look up and send that data to the contributor to share with the community.

That si pure garbage Kathy. It is the Contributor's notes that are part of the titles permanent record. Your notes mean nothing and vanish into the3 ether on approval or declinme. It uis the Contributors responsibility to provide the voter with a Contribution that complies with the Rules and communicates to the votes.

I have seen people document through the votes and periodically comment on it, it is patently absurd to do so.

BTW Kathy you second two paragraphs reflect a proper response. But to as you put it vote Yes with documentation in your vote notes, even sending a user a PM, what if he does not respond, then what, your supoposed documentation disappears and you have voted YES when you should have voted NO and perhaps errant data has been allowed in the database or at the very least improperly documented.

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Quoting Alien Redrum:

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Quoting Bad Father:

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If the change is not properly documented in the users Contribution Notes then it would get a no vote from me even if the data were correct.

Glad to know where the priorities are.   

Sad to know where yours are. You have no interest apparently in developing a first class product that is accurate and reliiable. You will settle for some data is better than no data. I want to see Profiler be the best in the world, I want Ken to have the ability to have a product that is recognized for is quality and as a result he can develop multiple income streams by licensing the use of the data, but some of us simply could care less about the caliber of the program or the quality of the product.

Says the guy who pushes IMDB data into the product and knowingly submits incorrect data.   

Yeah, you should be the spokesman here.   

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But is incorrect to vote yes if the data is correct?

Not only are you voting on Data but also as to whether the contribution complies with the Contribution Rules. One of those rules specifically spells out how a contribution must be documented in the Contribution Notes:


Contribution Notes

When you contribute a changed profile, you are required to include Contribution Notes. Use the space to enter full explanations for all changes and/or additions that you make. Make special reference to any changes where:

    You have verified there is a discrepancy between the box and the actual content of the DVD - include your verification method.

    You are making a subtle change that may be hard to spot - for example spelling correction to the overview.

    You are removing incorrect information.

Contribution Notes provide an explanation of your changes to other DVD Profiler users and Invelos for voting and deciding whether to accept your contribution, so make your notes useful and descriptive.

If the change is not properly documented in the users Contribution Notes then it would get a no vote from me even if the data were correct.

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

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In this case I would look up the BY data, copy the link and paste in the space next to my "yes" vote.
I would also send a pm to the contributor so that they are aware of the situation and can edit the profile to add the link from the BY thread.

If there isn't a BY thread then I might as Kulju has done in this thread, look up and send that data to the contributor to share with the community.

That si pure garbage Kathy. It is the Contributor's notes that are part of the titles permanent record. Your notes mean nothing and vanish into the3 ether on approval or declinme. It uis the Contributors responsibility to provide the voter with a Contribution that complies with the Rules and communicates to the votes.

I have seen people document through the votes and periodically comment on it, it is patently absurd to do so.

BTW Kathy you second two paragraphs reflect a proper response. But to as you put it vote Yes with documentation in your vote notes, even sending a user a PM, what if he does not respond, then what, your supoposed documentation disappears and you have voted YES when you should have voted NO and perhaps errant data has been allowed in the database or at the very least improperly documented.

Skip,

Once again you are unable to address me without being insulting. Who are you to pass judgement and call my opinion "garbage"? Or to tell me when my comment is a "proper response"?

If you feel the contribution is incorrect all you need to do is to vote "no" and state your reasoning which is what most people do.

In my opinion, the reason a contribution should be brought to the forums is to get clarification or gain insight when one is unclear on something.

Or, in rare cases to address other issues or concerns regarding the contribution/voting process.

What was your point in bringing this contribution to the forums?

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To contributors and voters

Profiler ices birth year data as a discriminator between two or more people with the same name and such data must be documented. We currently have a film up for vote from one of film's best directors including his by undocumented and there is only one such name in film, yet people are blindly voting yes. The name of the director Alfred Hitchcock.

I don't see you asking a question or trying to get insight or clarification on the contribution. It seems to me the only point of your post is as "a reminder" on how the community should vote.

Personally, I don't "a reminder" on what I should do as far as the contribution process is concerned. We have the rules and Ken's clarification thread for that.

If there is a problem a "no" vote is more than adequate. If you feel further action is warranted then a pm send a pm addressing your concerns.

A message might produce better results than posting it in the forums since that contributor might not even read the forums.

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Sad to know where yours are. You have no interest apparently in developing a first class product that is accurate and reliiable. You will settle for some data is better than no data. I want to see Profiler be the best in the world, I want Ken to have the ability to have a product that is recognized for is quality and as a result he can develop multiple income streams by licensing the use of the data, but some of us simply could care less about the caliber of the program or the quality of the product.

Says the guy who pushes IMDB data into the product and knowingly submits incorrect data.   

Yeah, you should be the spokesman here.   

The demand that others adhere to one set of standards while doing the opposite is what bothers me the most.

Skip, if you want to improve the database and turn it into a "first class  product that is accurate and reliable", then I suggest you look at yourself first before attacking others. Here is another example of saying one thing and doing another:

knowingly submits incorrect data.

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If the change is not properly documented in the users Contribution Notes then it would get a no vote from me even if the data were correct.

Glad to know where the priorities are.   

Sad to know where yours are. You have no interest apparently in developing a first class product that is accurate and reliiable. You will settle for some data is better than no data.

I'd rather have correct data than 10 pages of notes. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.