^ I understand:  it is not the main issue as raised, but...

If we treat a 3D/2D release like any other multiple version release (Director's cut with Theatrical on 2nd disc, for example) then, IMO, the natural choice would be to profile the special features on the disc on which they appear.  The multiple versions would trump the combo pack.

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Personal preference only here, but I'd rather see it as creating a box set containing only the most basic of information and then creating child profiles for all version of the movie included: 3D BD, BD and DVD

But if the majority is in favor of profiling the parent as the 3D BD and adding only child profiles for the BD and DVD, I can perfectly live with that.

The important thing for me is that there is a clear ruling so everyone can work in the same direction.

But 3D Blu-ray/Blu-ray/DVD Combos are NOT Box Sets.

A Box Set is a collection of different* films packaged individually and held together in a package or sets where each film is on a separate disc and not packaged individually or sets containing 2 films where one is on each side of a dual-sided disc. I added the word different because it’s obvious to me that that is the intent of the rule.

Combos contain the same film on 2 different media types, Blu-ray (HD Media) and DVD (SD Media) and don’t qualify, in my opinion, as bonafide Box Sets.

What is currently happening is that users are profiling Combos as if they were bonafide Box Sets, removing the Special Features contained on the second HD Media disc from the main HD Media profile. This forces users to have to download and add these “child profiles” to the Box Set contents of their main profile if they want to know what Special Features are included on the HD Media of the release.

The rule for these Combo releases states:

A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.

The Main Profile should use the details from the HD Media (3D Blu-ray and Blu-ray). An additional profile for the DVD content may be created…doesn’t have to be, and added to the Main Profile’s Box Set contents.

At least this is the way I interpret this rule. Obviously others disagree and thus the need for guidance and clarification from Ken on this perplexing matter.

Hello!!! Ken??? Yoo-Hoo…anyone home?

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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My preference would be that they are profiled as sold.  If it is a 3D Blu-ray/Blu-ray/DVD combo, the the main profile should be for the 3D version.  If it is a Blu-ray/3D Blu-ray, then the main profile should be for the Blu-ray.  Blu-ray/DVD, main profile for Blu-ray.  DVD/Blu-ray, main profile for the DVD.

We take the title from the case because "That's whatyou see on the shelf," so why don't we profile the same way?

Ok...I agree.

But how do you tell if it's primarily a Blu-ray 3D release versus a Blu-ray release? By the Title on the front cover or by how the discs are numbered in the set? I'm only asking because, while "Thor: Limited 3D Edition" would be primarily a Blu-ray 3D release due to the title, the discs on the rear cover are numbered:

Disc 1 - Blu-Ray
Disc 2 - Blu-ray 3D
Disc 3 - DVD

I'm beginning to change my mind regarding how these Combos should be handled now. If it's profiled based on the primary release, i.e., Blu-ray 3D as primary, then I can see how one should only list the features included on that disc. I Just don't like the idea of having to add the child profiles for the same film to the primary profile. I guess I'll just have to get used to it.

I've been mulling this over and I don't know if this would be possible for DVDP 3.8, but I wonder if a tab could be added within the profile that would switch the info (video, audio and features) from 3D BD to BD to DVD. It would satisfy those who don't want child profiles but keeps the info correct per format. Plus, it would only count the profile as 1 title like normal.

Hopefully that makes sense... 

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Quoting TheMovieman:

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I've been mulling this over and I don't know if this would be possible for DVDP 3.8, but I wonder if a tab could be added within the profile that would switch the info (video, audio and features) from 3D BD to BD to DVD. It would satisfy those who don't want child profiles but keeps the info correct per format. Plus, it would only count the profile as 1 title like normal.

Hopefully that makes sense... 

That was what I was thinking.  From a daatabase [ers[ective you coul dhave a release which only contains release specific informaion (UPC, SRP) and a release contains one to many discs which contain disc based information.  Have each area discreetly defined well in the database and then how you display it be configyrablein the interface.  Each user can decided then if they would see child profiles in the main movie listing.  And if you do not it could do either a tab structure like you say or combine common media types for display.  Because technicaly the way it is displayed can be different than the way that it is stored.

Another thing that could be useful with a similar system is for discs with more than one movie on it. I thought about it because I just received 4 Blu-rays, each with 4 movies on one disc. Of course, right now we have to combine the running times, cast/crew, audio, etc so having tabs to have more than one movie would work. I don't know the logistics, however.

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Cars 2: 3D is a blu ray release which includes the 3D version of the film. 3D Blu-ray is not a recognized Media Type in Profiler.

By removing features from the profile, you are profiling this release as though it were a Box Set. THIS IS NOT A BOX SET. The Disc ID Profiles Are OPTIONAL. This forces users to add the Disc ID profiles if they want to know what features this release has. That's rediculous.

The rules states: "A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile".

The existing profile contains the features from the HD Media. The featurettes and Audio Commentary ARE "details from the HD media"...not the DVD. They should remain in the main profile.

This is like removing all of the features from a 2-Disc DVD release Profile because the features are on a second Bonus Feature DVD disc. Does that make any sense to anyone?

Totally agree.

Unfortunately it's becoming the norm. Well, the two I submitted were approved however I won't submit any more (save for the child profiles and Box Set IDs) until we get a clarification on the issues at hand.

OK, did I right understand all this? :-)? I have a 3D sold package including also the 2D version, both Blu-ray. Now:

The 3D version has 4 Audio Tracks (languages)
The 2D version has 6 Audio Tracks (languages), so 2 more.

I add the 6 languages, right?

The 3D version is the cineama version
The 2D version is the director's cut, so about 10 minutes longer.

Rules tell to put the time from the longer film into Running Time. So I put the time from the director's cut of the 2D Blu-ray, also the package is sold as a 3D?

Did I do it right this way?

Fritz