I guess, I am now totally confused.

I thought that TV series were cataloged based upon "HOW" they are packaged.


Take Stargate SG-1 the complete series (Seasons 1-10, 54 discs).

In this set, there really isn't a separate case for each season, the only real indicators are on the discs themselves.  The individual seasons are not packaged in a separate "box" within the main box.

I was under the impression that this would be treated as 1 parent, with "if you chose to" 54 children.  Each child would have the contents of that disc (man, how I would like to have an "episode" level profile).

If this packaging had been different, say a master box with all the individual season boxes (with corresponding UPC's) then you would have the master profile (Grandparent) the season by UPC (parent) and the Disc's (Children)

If the individual seasons did not have a "UPC" but were still contained in there individual season packaging packaging, then you would have master profile by UPC, then the children (seasons), by initial disc (though this would create problems for the disc level profiles, for the first disk is already used).

Am I being obtuse here?


Charlie

Quoting CharlieM:

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I guess, I am now totally confused.

I thought that TV series were cataloged based upon "HOW" they are packaged.


Take Stargate SG-1 the complete series (Seasons 1-10, 54 discs).

In this set, there really isn't a separate case for each season, the only real indicators are on the discs themselves.  The individual seasons are not packaged in a separate "box" within the main box.

I was under the impression that this would be treated as 1 parent, with "if you chose to" 54 children.  Each child would have the contents of that disc (man, how I would like to have an "episode" level profile).

If this packaging had been different, say a master box with all the individual season boxes (with corresponding UPC's) then you would have the master profile (Grandparent) the season by UPC (parent) and the Disc's (Children)

If the individual seasons did not have a "UPC" but were still contained in there individual season packaging packaging, then you would have master profile by UPC, then the children (seasons), by initial disc (though this would create problems for the disc level profiles, for the first disk is already used).

Am I being obtuse here?


Charlie

You are not being obtuse as there are a lot...and I mean a LOT...of people that see it exactly that way.  If there weren't, we wouldn't be having this discussion. 

Profiling whole seasons under a disc ID made sense in the past when we weren't supposed to have disc-level profiles on TV sets, but this is no longer the case. There also is no explicit support for the practice in the rules. At best, you can infer it from the junction of several rules. Meanwhile, there is explicit support for disc-level profiles. Additionally, making disc ID profiles of TV shows represent actual discs most of the time, then having a few dozen exceptions where they are seasons makes no sense. If somethign doesn't make sense, it's fair to assume the rules don't actually mean that unless they are very clear that they do mean that. Such is not the case here. We had this argument before about Alias Season 5.

Note that was settled in terms of disc ID profiles only representing the contents of that disc pretty definitively. We don't need to have the same argument again every time this comes up.

Quoting Winston Smith:

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And they still do make sense Ace. Perhaps you enjoy perusing large volumes of data .To9 find some piece of data. I don't. I prefer the data to be small and relatively compact, disc level, NOT box level EVER.

I was arguing for disc level data, yet you seem  to be disagreeing with me and also arguing for disc level. What is your position here? Mine is that individual disc IDs of TV series should only contain data for that disc, not other discs in the same season.