Quoting Winston Smith:

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How are rentals part of any collection. Color me  , but something which I do not own is not part of a collection,it belongs to someone else's collection (inventory). I am missing something.

These rental only releases are frequently sold to consumers when their rental life is up.

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That being said, to address the point made...because some people like to catalogue the films that they have watched, not just the films that they own.  Since the rules allow it, and it has absolutely no affect on me, what do I care?

Even if I didn't own numerous rental only discs, I would get behind this 100%.

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I just went back and checked the rules again.  I checked them the first time, because I though I remembered there being something about the disc having to be sold.  As evidenced by my first post, I didn't find that wording.  The thought kept gnawing at me as I was positive that the wording was there.  Well, I am happy to report that my memory wasn't faulty...though I am embarassed to report that I read through the rules too fast and missed something.  Here is the rule I was looking for (bolding by me):

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Contribute only the following items to the main database:

"DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video" discs (including MiniDVD): These discs contain movies, television shows, music performances and other professionally-produced and sold DVDs. No CDs, DVD-Audio discs, video games, Video CDs, or VHS titles will be accepted.

Based on that, I have to change my vote...rental only copies are not allowed in the main database.

Curious on how you came to that. They are definitely professionally-produced and sold. I don't see them as any different as, say, a Bestbuy exclusive disc made specifically for Bestbuy.

And I change my vote, too. I don't get behind you. 

I agree with Ace and Alien, since it doesn't say to whom the discs have to be sold (and I doubt very much rental places get their discs for free), I see nothing in the rules that disallows rentals from being added into the dB. Be it rentals that have been re-sold to individual consumers or rentals that are only being used for renting. Either way, they were purchased by one entity or another.

Then there's the point that if an individual wants to pay enough, I'm relatively certain they could indeed buy a rental only DVD for personal use. At least that's how it used to work in the days of VHS and rental windows. That may have changed since there's no rental windows anymore.

Anyway, from where I'm sitting this debate is entirely academic anyway, since it'd be impossible for anyone to prove that a rental edition isn't available for sale. What's the point of having rules if it's impossible to enforce them?

They aren't just sold to the rental store, they are sold to consumers by the rental store, which is as much professionals sales as anything, I would think.

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Quoting Alien Redrum:

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Curious on how you came to that. They are definitely professionally-produced and sold. I don't see them as any different as, say, a Bestbuy exclusive disc made specifically for Bestbuy.

And I change my vote, too. I don't get behind you. 

Sometimes they are sold.  If they are never sold, and only ever rented, then they don't qualify.  Unless...

<--My thinking really hard face.

...unless you take into account the fact that they were sold to the rental store. 

Does that mean I have to change my vote again? 

Edit: I see Astrakan beat me to the punch. 

Oh, okay. I think I may understand where you stand now. If they are sold to a profile user, it can be entered, but if a profile user just rented it, but never purchased it, it should not be entered. (I use profile user for this argument, since it's the only person it will affect in this situation).

Is that what you mean?

I don't know if all rentals are eventually sold (I would assume so, though, with Blockbuster about to file bankruptcy ).

I will say, though, I do have copies that say "RENTAL COPY" right across the DVD that I picked out of the 5/20 sales or whatever. So they do sell them to the public (used) once they have made their initial rental run.

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"DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video" discs (including MiniDVD): These discs contain movies, television shows, music performances and other professionally-produced and sold DVDs. No CDs, DVD-Audio discs, video games, Video CDs, or VHS titles will be accepted.

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Both matches to rental DVDs at least in Germany. They're allowed to sell to "normal" people also, so they can be part of my collection and so I wouldn't forbid them in DVDP.