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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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Dan has Always been advocate of Open Creds, as have I. But the Rules dealt with the cards that Ken gave us to play. If my memory serves me correctly both Dan and myself were all too aware of the bear trap we were walking into.

Then why didn't you mention it five years ago?  I mean, if we didn't have anything to begin with, why not suggest it then? 

Skip beat me to it but that suggestion was made at length and it was strenuously argued for. But, when all you have is a disfunctional system, you do what you can to make it work.

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WE DID.

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Quoting Dan W:

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It seems your faith in Ken's abilities are at an all-time low.

From what I have seen of the utilities used by many of profiler's users to strip data from IMDB, it isn't that difficult a task to convert the current accepted data to something new.

I addressed this in an earlier post.  Since you seem to have missed it, I will repeat what I said there...

"While Ken might be able to convert the radio buttons to text based data, it won't match the actual credits...which is what you want."

So, while I do have faith in Ken's abilities, I don't believe he is a magician.  There is no way to convert the data that will get you the on screen data that you want.  Let's take just one type of credit, OMB.  How is a conversion going to give us anything other than 'Original Material by'?  We are still going to have to re-audit every single profile in order to add that data.  If I am missing something her, please, feel free to enlighten me.

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Quoting Dan W:

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It seems your faith in Ken's abilities are at an all-time low.

From what I have seen of the utilities used by many of profiler's users to strip data from IMDB, it isn't that difficult a task to convert the current accepted data to something new.

I addressed this in an earlier post.  Since you seem to have missed it, I will repeat what I said there...

"While Ken might be able to convert the radio buttons to text based data, it won't match the actual credits...which is what you want."

So, while I do have faith in Ken's abilities, I don't believe he is a magician.  There is no way to convert the data that will get you the on screen data that you want.  Let's take just one type of credit, OMB.  How is a conversion going to give us anything other than 'Original Material by'?  We are still going to have to re-audit every single profile in order to add that data.  If I am missing something her, please, feel free to enlighten me.

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Quoting Dan W:

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It seems your faith in Ken's abilities are at an all-time low.

From what I have seen of the utilities used by many of profiler's users to strip data from IMDB, it isn't that difficult a task to convert the current accepted data to something new.

I addressed this in an earlier post.  Since you seem to have missed it, I will repeat what I said there...

"While Ken might be able to convert the radio buttons to text based data, it won't match the actual credits...which is what you want."

So, while I do have faith in Ken's abilities, I don't believe he is a magician.  There is no way to convert the data that will get you the on screen data that you want.  Let's take just one type of credit, OMB.  How is a conversion going to give us anything other than 'Original Material by'?  We are still going to have to re-audit every single profile in order to add that data.  If I am missing something her, please, feel free to enlighten me.

I must agree with the martian

A online DB conversion program would take the "Director" Credit and convert it to what.  He could only convert it to what the conversion program specified (smart thing would be "Director" or "Directed by")

We would be required to re audit to fill in the rest of the data.

I know that there are a number of us, that already track "extended information", and the conversion program for the local DB, could allow the option to translate the credit into the custom marker.  ONLY LOCALLY.

I would hope that it would create a list of profiles that actually used custom credits, so as those may get re contributed first.  It would at least be a start.

Charlie

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Quoting Dan W:

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It seems your faith in Ken's abilities are at an all-time low.

From what I have seen of the utilities used by many of profiler's users to strip data from IMDB, it isn't that difficult a task to convert the current accepted data to something new.

I addressed this in an earlier post.  Since you seem to have missed it, I will repeat what I said there...

"While Ken might be able to convert the radio buttons to text based data, it won't match the actual credits...which is what you want."

So, while I do have faith in Ken's abilities, I don't believe he is a magician.  There is no way to convert the data that will get you the on screen data that you want.  Let's take just one type of credit, OMB.  How is a conversion going to give us anything other than 'Original Material by'?  We are still going to have to re-audit every single profile in order to add that data.  If I am missing something her, please, feel free to enlighten me.

Editing the credits on every profile is unavoidable even if he chooses to change one thing.

BTW, Folks, the discussion/argument over when Open Credits was first suggested is moot. Don't any of you remember when Ken broke away from intervocative in 2007? The entire main database had to be rebuilt. Ken could have gone with open credits at that time and I'm sure you remember the polls and the arguments and ect. shortly before then. This is not a new discussion/argument.

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Dan:

The first thing you have to recognize is that Rick is "the man behind the curtain."