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Alf Season 4 problem
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I'm sorry you feel that way but I've seen it far too often over the years I've been here.

When I have a question where I'm genuinely clueless, I still come here.

When I know from the start that there will be disagreements because it's a judgement call about a very specific issue (like a misprinted disc that is even replaced by the distributor) I feel it's best to let only people decide who have to actually live with the profile the way it is.

This is not a common name issue that will have widespread influence on the overall database. This is a question concerning one specific profile and the people who actually own that DVD.

This sounds good in theory, but what about the people who purchase the title after your decision is made?  Are you going to ask their opinions when the time comes or are they going to be stuck with the decision that you and the current owners made?

For me, that's the purpose of the Contribution Forum...to get a more diverse sampling of opinions.  I do it quite often and, when it is a judgement call, I always go with the majority.  If my opinion was different, I keep it local.  To do anything else, in my opinion, just seems like a slap in the face to the rest of the community.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
One disc at a time...
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Don't ask the forum, just do what you feel is right and let the actual owners of the DVD set decide via vote.

I often see that people who don't even own the set feel that their opinion is the only valid one and go as far as add the set to their wish list just to vote on a profile they will never lay eyes on again.


That's what it pretty much comes down to. Sound advice.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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I'm sorry you feel that way but I've seen it far too often over the years I've been here.

When I have a question where I'm genuinely clueless, I still come here.

When I know from the start that there will be disagreements because it's a judgement call about a very specific issue (like a misprinted disc that is even replaced by the distributor) I feel it's best to let only people decide who have to actually live with the profile the way it is.

This is not a common name issue that will have widespread influence on the overall database. This is a question concerning one specific profile and the people who actually own that DVD.

This sounds good in theory, but what about the people who purchase the title after your decision is made?  Are you going to ask their opinions when the time comes or are they going to be stuck with the decision that you and the current owners made?

For me, that's the purpose of the Contribution Forum...to get a more diverse sampling of opinions.  I do it quite often and, when it is a judgement call, I always go with the majority.  If my opinion was different, I keep it local.  To do anything else, in my opinion, just seems like a slap in the face to the rest of the community.


The only problem is the majority opinion in the forums is not a true indicator of "the rest of the community".

When I contribute to the database I usually check to see who has voted on those profiles. In the majority of cases I do not recognize their names.

The forum community represents is just a small number of people and those opinions, although valuable, can not be seen as a true representation of the invelos' community.

When I post a query in the forums I am interested hearing what others think and their rationale backing that opinion.

But, if there are differing opinions I don't consider either side to be either right or wrong.

When I contribute said profile I document my query, post the link to the appropriate thread and let the voters and screeners decide the issue.

Since it is the people who own that profile whose vote subsequently makes the final decision, I believe this gives a more true indication of what the majority think.

If in the future someone decides the contribution is wrong, they can submit changes and the owners of the DVD can once again decide the issue.
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So in this type of situation, why couldn't it be the same way as a UPC that is USA & Canada. Now when I download for a new DVD that I bought, I get USA, Canada and sometimes another local, and I have to chose which one I have. For this type of situation you could have UPC (error) or UPC (corrected) and you would have to chose which one you actually have. I have a double feature with Cover art and DVD menu screen for a film but the actual film is a different movie of the same name. This type of solution could be used for reissues with dif. cover art or features with the same UPC which I've come across also with cast names spelt differently.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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So in this type of situation, why couldn't it be the same way as a UPC that is USA & Canada.


That would be nice in theory, but the database doesn't support it. Each entry is tied to a country and a UPC. There's no way to have multiple entries for the same UPC & country.
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So in this type of situation, why couldn't it be the same way as a UPC that is USA & Canada.


That would be nice in theory, but the database doesn't support it. Each entry is tied to a country and a UPC. There's no way to have multiple entries for the same UPC & country.


Just an idea that I had. I've seen it in music databases regarding Lp album reissues with dif. cover art or song order or additional songs that were orig. cut from the relase but added in the release with same LP #
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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Well, I finally got this set done.

What I did was replace the current box set contents of the parent with those that came in mine.
Contributed the 4 discs that came originally in my set.

I then contributed Disc #3 as a stand alone (not connected directly to the season set) profile noting that it was the replacement disc to correct the error disc that came originally in the set.

That way those that still have the original set with the error disc can download the box set contents and those that got the replacement disc #3 can download that profile and replace disc #3 in the parent profile.

I also linked to this thread in my contribution notes for both Disc #3 profiles.
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