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| Registered: May 14, 2007 |  Posts: 455 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is Ken's call. He is right LET IT GO. Ken I would suggest locking this thread. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,192 |
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As previously discussed, the Publisher term is used to distinguish between the company that is responsible for the production of the DVD vs the company that physically distributes the DVD. I think he asked for a definition, not what it is used for. Is the maker of the DVD the Publisher? (The DVD will say for eg. Columbia TriStar Home Video) Or is the maker of the case/cover the Publisher? (The case will say for eg. Egmont Entertainment). This is a real example. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote:
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As previously discussed, the Publisher term is used to distinguish between the company that is responsible for the production of the DVD vs the company that physically distributes the DVD.
I think he asked for a definition, not what it is used for.
Is the maker of the DVD the Publisher? (The DVD will say for eg. Columbia TriStar Home Video)
Or is the maker of the case/cover the Publisher? (The case will say for eg. Egmont Entertainment).
This is a real example. in my opinion, the dvd is more important than the case. I really couldn't give a rats arse who designed the case. Now the mess that some UK companies make of encoding the film for the dvd - that's worth knowing! | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
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As previously discussed, the Publisher term is used to distinguish between the company that is responsible for the production of the DVD vs the company that physically distributes the DVD.
I think he asked for a definition, not what it is used for.
Is the maker of the DVD the Publisher? (The DVD will say for eg. Columbia TriStar Home Video)
Or is the maker of the case/cover the Publisher? (The case will say for eg. Egmont Entertainment).
This is a real example.
in my opinion, the dvd is more important than the case. I really couldn't give a rats arse who designed the case.
Now the mess that some UK companies make of encoding the film for the dvd - that's worth knowing! That's called Authoring, paul and all too unfortunately is NOT always represented on the disc these days. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,192 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
in my opinion, the dvd is more important than the case. I really couldn't give a rats arse who designed the case. I agree, but this is not what the rules tell us to do. It just assumes that everyone knows how to find the Publisher without explaining the concept. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't ask me what it means. As far as I am concerned it is a non-existent term and has no meaning to film.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 302 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Don't ask me what it means. As far as I am concerned it is a non-existent term and has no meaning to film.
Skip Skip, Check your copy of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, right after the copyright notice you will find: Quote:
Country of First Publication: United States of America. So it looks like Warner Bros. thinks that it has meaning. Likewise Universal Studios lists it for Hellboy II. That being said, not all studios include this data, Sony Pictures, Paramount and Disney don't. It has meaning in that things that are "published" are covered under copyright. pdf | | | Paul Francis
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry, Paul. I already said i don't buy your argument. I know what it says and where and if that's your best...There may be sometimes ONE instance of the use of the term Publication (NOT Publisher) and there is absolutely no suich referencve in any othjer piece of data whiuch might be looked , not on the cover or the disc or ANYWHERE else in a given film,. The use of that term would also be referring to the FILM NOT ANY DVD.
IMHO you are simply grasping at any straw ytou can find to rationalize a non-existent term that si not applicable to film.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Sorry, Paul. I already said i don't buy your argument. I know what it says and where and if that's your best...There may be sometimes ONE instance of the use of the term Publication (NOT Publisher) and there is absolutely no suich referencve in any othjer piece of data whiuch might be looked , not on the cover or the disc or ANYWHERE else in a given film,. The use of that term would also be referring to the FILM NOT ANY DVD.
IMHO you are simply grasping at any straw ytou can find to rationalize a non-existent term that si not applicable to film.
Skip No, Skip. You keep saying the the word "publish" has no meaning for DVDs or films. I am just pointing out that some studios call their films a "Publication". I don't care what label we put on the field. I just want to list the company that picks a film to be on DVD. I find that far more useful than the company that put it on the truck. pdf | | | Paul Francis
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Great youi find it more useful, I am happy for you and I have never said No to that, paul, I, in point of FACT have suggested numerous possibilities to deal with the your desire. I DON"T HAPPEN to find it useful or interesting and we have been doing it this way for three years. Yet unlike myself who did not say no, and soughjt ways to give you and others what they wanted. YOU and others did EXACTLY rhe opposite and actively sought the destruction of THREE years worth of WORK. [b]Do you get it now. [/b] I have just about had enough of every post from you trying to be combative or some form of GOTCHA. but keep on trying.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 |  Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
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As previously discussed, the Publisher term is used to distinguish between the company that is responsible for the production of the DVD vs the company that physically distributes the DVD.
I think he asked for a definition, not what it is used for.
Is the maker of the DVD the Publisher? (The DVD will say for eg. Columbia TriStar Home Video)
Or is the maker of the case/cover the Publisher? (The case will say for eg. Egmont Entertainment).
This is a real example.
in my opinion, the dvd is more important than the case. I really couldn't give a rats arse who designed the case.
Now the mess that some UK companies make of encoding the film for the dvd - that's worth knowing! I beg to differ. I DO care about the packaging. I collect DVD's and the packaging is a major part of it!! | | | My DVD's
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive? |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 41 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have a very concrete question regarding the Canadian Blu-ray release of "From Dusk Till Dawn". This film has been released on BD only in Canada, nowhere else in the world including the Unites States. It has been released by Alliance Atlantis in Canada. This is in the database under Media Publisher (I didn't make the entry).
Everything on the packaging points to Alliance Atlantis. The BD opens with the Alliance Atlantis logo and their rather impressive jingle. For me, therefore, the publisher of this very medium is Alliance. Now, a submission requested to change that to Dimension Home Video because Alliance is "only the Canadian distributor". I also own the Special Edition DVD which was released by Dimension Home Video in the US (Dimension Collector's Series). I assume a future release of the film on the Blu-ray format in the US will be done by Dimension Home Video (and will hopefully include Special Features).
But what I hold in my hand here is a Canadian BD, locality Canada, released (published?) by Alliance Atlantis. I voted no but I don't wish to cast no votes lightly. If my interpretation is wrong I will change my vote immediately to yes. What is your opinion please! | | | | Last edited: by Konrad |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with you, Konrad. The media publisher is the studio/company that publishes the Blu-Ray or DVD in the locality of release and NOT the distributor in the movies' country of origin. Most of the time the Blu-Ray or DVD publisher can be find in the copyright notice on the back cover (somewhere on the bottom of the back cover). | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 41 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
I agree with you, Konrad. The media publisher is the studio/company that publishes the Blu-Ray or DVD in the locality of release and NOT the distributor in the movies' country of origin. Most of the time the Blu-Ray or DVD publisher can be find in the copyright notice on the back cover (somewhere on the bottom of the back cover). Thank you Corne for the hint. Copyright notice says: QUOTE This product is for private home viewing only ... All other rights reserved. Any copying or public performance ... severe criminal penalties. Alliance Vivafilm, 455 St. Antoine Street West, Suite 300, Montréal, Québec, H2Z 1J1. Printed in Canada 2008 END QUOTE. I guess this supports my point of view that Alliance is the Media Publisher. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 302 |
| | Posted: | | | | i checked the cover from 065935-820864 and i would say in the first shot the "publishing label" should be "Dimension Home Video" because (as on backcover) "Distributed exclusivly in Canada by Alliance Film. All Rights Reserved".
But "All Rights Reserved" makes me unsure and in the second shot I would say "Alliance Film" is the "publishing Label" because they acquire the exclusive publishing/distributing rights from "Dimension Home Video" for this movie for Canada. And because of that the "DHV"-Logo is also printed on the backcover. | | | regards, Mad -
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