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I find it very doubtful that you are aware of every possible variation.

Well, no guarantees, of course - I've just done the best I can. And yeah, every once in a while I stumble on something new, so there's always room for improvement. But again: this has absolutely nothing to do with the way we convert ALL-CAPS credits into mixed case.

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By eliminating the "Credited As" system, you only enter exactly what you see on the screen!  No exceptions.

So if I don't see a ç then I won't enter one, right? Or would that be an exception? 

Only if you are also willing to accept all caps in the database when the credits are in all caps, since I don't see a c either.

So that's two exceptions already?! 

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By eliminating the "Credited As" system, you only enter exactly what you see on the screen!  No exceptions.

So if I don't see a ç then I won't enter one, right? Or would that be an exception? 

Only if you are also willing to accept all caps in the database when the credits are in all caps, since I don't see a c either.

So that's two exceptions already?! 

The only exception is conversion of all caps to mixed case, as is already directed under the Rules.  Not sure what  your #2 is?

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By eliminating the "Credited As" system, you only enter exactly what you see on the screen!  No exceptions.

So if I don't see a ç then I won't enter one, right? Or would that be an exception? 

As have been said numerous times, you have sometimes to enter a c even though you don't see one. What you see is a C. And some times in those cases you have to enter a ç instead. There is no difference between c and ç.

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As far as I'm concerned, we cannot address conversion of all caps to mixed case without also addressing the current broken linking system, since, I agree, it would exacerbate the current linking problems if left unaddressed.

So then we're on the same page: surfeur's proposal really could not be implemented under the current circumstances. That's all I've been saying. If or when we get such a major linking system overhaul, then different options for dealing with this issue may arise, but... Since we've never gotten so much as a hint that an overhaul of the "linking system" like that is even an option, this "solution" (to a non-existing problem, IMHO) seems to be an extreme case of wishful thinking. It seems sooooo far away that I don't really understand the fuss about it.

We are not on the same page because you are apparently perfectly fine with the current linking system.  I'm not.

Well it could be implemented by itself, however, I agree it would add more problems to an already broken system.  The linking system is absolutely a bigger problem...at least for me.

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We are not on the same page because you are apparently perfectly fine with the current linking system.  I'm not.

I've never said I'm ecstatic about the current linking system. It does what I need it to do locally, and with every cast and crew update I and many others contribute the situation in the online database improves as well, but I certainly do see the problems.

My problem here is that this thread is about we convert ALL-CAPS credits into mixed case. You've managed to turn that into expecting a complete overhaul of the linking system. If Ken decides to work on the linking system - great!! I'm sure that whatever he'd do, it would be an improvement. But I'm not really expecting anything. So right now, we can only try to make the best of what we've got. It's not about "being fine" or being "not fine" with it - it's just what we have. And like you say, this proposal would only "add more problems". Therefore, under the current system, it's a bad proposal.

For a second there, I actually thought this thread was closed!     

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I think you misunderstand me.  The "Credited As" system is the one the says we enter a "Common Name" AND the "As Credited" name from the on screen credit.

It's possible and this is maybe something I've missinterpreted since the first time you had talked about this. So here an exemple with Rene Bond:

Credit screencap from Mary! Mary!

She is credited here under the Paula Schnall alias (wich of course I've confirm on screen)

Presently as I do it in my database this credit is entered like this :

Rene Bond (Paula Schnall) as Policewoman

Will it rest the same with your propose system or it will become :

Rene Bond (no credited as) as Policewoman
Paula Schnall as Policewoman (this is the 2.X way)