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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally speaking, this piece of data, awards aside, is one of the least interesting on its own. Coupled with production year it can lend some ineresting tidbits, but still not terribly interesting. Take for example Eddie Murphy's recent flip which had been lounging on studio shelves for several years, but this year someone decided to give it a try. It was not only caught but it was killed and the secretary disavowed all knowledge of it. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Personally speaking, this piece of data, awards aside, is one of the least interesting But fortunately – as you're fond of saying – the online database is for all users, and not just for some. --------------- |
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| Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | I also started on about The Evil Dead... that's still completely and utterly unresolved. Shocking.  A site that I use in conjunction with IMDB to figure out this date, which is generally excellent in listing down to the actual date that a film was released, is boxofficemojo (a highly regarded, highly reliable website that's generally seen as one of the sources for box office info on films). | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I agree .. but what I am or was trying to express is the FACT we take all info from a movie or dvd from, the film itself not any other medium If the (mis spelled) jacket says the actors name is Johhn smmitth rather than John Smith we use Johhn smmitth .. If the movie runs 147min 35 seconds we use 148 minutes not the the 147 min on jacket /or other sites ..
so if a film has a certain year in its running credits of when the film was made we should use that not the date it was screened .. There are numerous films that get screened on Dec 30th in LA or New York but don't get theatrically release til January the next year which is fine, because the film's date is still in the last reel as that year ( DEC ) .. I just don't understand how if a film gets held up due to 'screening date's how that matters to us... Just as Johhn smmitth matters to us as being correct .. If a film takes 4 years to film they don;t use year one of 4 for produciton they use the date that the film was ready for general release.. even if there are no takers .. I believe there has been numerous movies (TV) that were filmed and put on the shelf for i.e. 6 years and is usually regarded as the film from 6 years ago that finally made it to video ..... Holy cow, while I don't necessarily agree with you, you make a damn fine point.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Plenty of movies don't have a copyright date in the credits, though. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | all movies have a date and most of them have roman numerals .... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | All modern Hollywood movies have a date. |
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| Registered: December 22, 2008 |  Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
A site that I use in conjunction with IMDB to figure out this date, which is generally excellent in listing down to the actual date that a film was released, is boxofficemojo (a highly regarded, highly reliable website that's generally seen as one of the sources for box office info on films). Yeah... except for the detail, that boxofficemojo belongs to IMDb.  Don't get me wrong, boxofficemojo is one of the most reliable sites for US dates. But most (or even all) data you retrieve from boxofficemojo, is also included in IMDb, so it's pointless to say "data from BOM crosschecked with IMDb and Amazon". That's basically always the same company, that (hopefully, except they are complete idiots) uses the same databaseses. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
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That's why I said personally speaking | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting M_E: Quote:
Quoting Merrik:
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A site that I use in conjunction with IMDB to figure out this date, which is generally excellent in listing down to the actual date that a film was released, is boxofficemojo (a highly regarded, highly reliable website that's generally seen as one of the sources for box office info on films).
Yeah... except for the detail, that boxofficemojo belongs to IMDb.
Don't get me wrong, boxofficemojo is one of the most reliable sites for US dates. But most (or even all) data you retrieve from boxofficemojo, is also included in IMDb, so it's pointless to say "data from BOM crosschecked with IMDb and Amazon". That's basically always the same company, that (hopefully, except they are complete idiots) uses the same databaseses. Fair enough. Wasn't aware of the connection between Boxofficemojo and IMDB, thanks for making me aware of it. Doesn't discredit boxofficemojo though, so now I only have to check one site!  | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
My guess as to why we use release date, rather than production date, is because all awards are based on that date. Cape Fear would have been eligable for the 1962 Oscars, not the 1961 Oscars.
The name should probably be changed in the program. I agree as the Profiler data program 3.7 9 and its predecessors under 'General' Information tab gives production date rather than Screening date .. this is definitively an area that should be updated and fixed .. to either Screening or Production (Year) .... for version 3.8 ..... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | I hope that the new Invelos release (3.8) changes production year to SCREENING year ..
I just read today that Arsenic and Old Lace was filmed in the last quarter of 1941 . ! but wasn't release till Sept 1944 .. That's three Years .. ! | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 681 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I hope that the new Invelos release (3.8) changes production year to SCREENING year ..
I just read today that Arsenic and Old Lace was filmed in the last quarter of 1941 . ! but wasn't release till Sept 1944 .. That's three Years .. ! I hope so, too. It could be titled e.g. "Year of Original Release" so that direct-to-disc releases would be covered, too. Of course it should be then clearly explained in the rules that what is "original release" (festival screening / first wide release / release in CoO...) I'm sure there are plenty of movies that have considerable delay from the production to release. I know that "Saratoga Trunk" was filmed and completed in 1943, but it was released to theatres more than two years later, near Christmas time in 1945. WWII was the major factor there - presumably same thing as with "Arsenic and Old Lace". | | | Mika
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | apparently with Arsenic .. they had a contractual agreement not to release when the stage play was still on .. It took three years for the stage play on Broadway to complete.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,117 |
| | Posted: | | | | In a perfect world, I wish the field contained the actual date of wide theatrical release per locality, so I could do a sort and see the exact order my movies were released. |
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