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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You refuse to provide some simple info which would prove useful to other users | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
But you still refuse to communicate  I do not have to communicate with you. And, since you refuse to leave me alone, I have decided to block you. Edited to remove an unnecessary comment. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
It will change the profile online.. Are sure about this? I'm quite sure that users cannot change online capitalization after it has been added to online db first time. I have several profiles with Lars von Trier. If I try to update those, they will always show up as Lars Von Trier, even when I have personally entered the credit as Lars von Trier. First contributor who added him in the db, added "Von" and that is what it is going to be, no matter how many times we try to contribute "von". Yes, while voting, contribution comparison windows will note the difference, but even if accepted it doesn't actually change online capitalization. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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I guess I don't understand why anyone cares how it is capitalized in the online database. When it downloads to your local, it "adopts" the capitalization that you are currently using in your local, or if it is a new name to your local database, and you don't like the way it's capitalized, you can change it to what you want, and it will stay that way going forward, regardless of what's in the on-line! 
I don't have a problem except when a contribution is mistakenly declined. I posted this thread to find the relevant clarification from Ken regarding this topic.
I was not comfortable submitting the profile without being able to post Ken's actual comments on the matter.
***Moderators, please lock this thread since I am the original poster an my question has been answered. Thank you.*** Kathy, My comment was not directed at you. I understand why you posted. The screeners obviously messed up, and the voter clearly does not understand how the database(s) work. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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It will change the profile online..
Are sure about this? I'm quite sure that users cannot change online capitalization after it has been added to online db first time.
I have several profiles with Lars von Trier. If I try to update those, they will always show up as Lars Von Trier, even when I have personally entered the credit as Lars von Trier. First contributor who added him in the db, added "Von" and that is what it is going to be, no matter how many times we try to contribute "von".
Yes, while voting, contribution comparison windows will note the difference, but even if accepted it doesn't actually change online capitalization. This is true for existing profiles. However, I'm pretty sure someone can add a new profile to the online and change the capitalization in that profile. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
I understand that, Hal and concur. I just want Kathy to clearly communicate in her notes. Why she have to add something for her notes that doesn't actually change any data? Not online, or locally? You can see the difference in comparison window, but it doesn't change anything. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
This is true for existing profiles. However, I'm pretty sure someone can add a new profile to the online and change the capitalization in that profile. I on the otherhand don't believe that's true  Like I said earlier, I have profiles where I'm the one who has done initial credits contribution with "von", and if I update them now online shows "Von". |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Kathy,
My comment was not directed at you. I understand why you posted. I didn't think it was Hal but thank you for the clarification. Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The screeners obviously messed up,... I have resubmitted the profile and added the link to Ken's post. Quoting hal9g: Quote:
...and the voter clearly does not understand how the database(s) work. This absolutely made my day - thank you. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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It will change the profile online..
Are sure about this? I'm quite sure that users cannot change online capitalization after it has been added to online db first time.
I have several profiles with Lars von Trier. If I try to update those, they will always show up as Lars Von Trier, even when I have personally entered the credit as Lars von Trier. First contributor who added him in the db, added "Von" and that is what it is going to be, no matter how many times we try to contribute "von".
Yes, while voting, contribution comparison windows will note the difference, but even if accepted it doesn't actually change online capitalization. I have no idea... I am just going by what Ken himself had said... Quoting Ken Cole:Quote:
All points covered by others above, but to reiterate:
The CLT is not case-sensitive. Also, DVD Profiler will not change the case of a cast member when accepting an update. It does all cast member comparisons without case sensitivity as well. It's also not possible to submit a contribution with a "Credited As" entry that varies only in case.
With all that being the case (no pun intended), there should be no reason to change your local case to match, for standard deviations such as "De Nero" or "de Nero".
The case-based ping-ponging can occur, but it amounts to nothing as the changes are not downloaded for those that already have that actor.
By the way, kudos to all on a polite, productive discussion! See the part I put in bold... so according to Ken it does change the online... no? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Kulju:
Sadly you don't understand the importance of the notes. I also take note of Kathy 's assault directly at me while I was respectful and simply asked her to do something. How sad that she is allowed to getvsway with such behavior. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Sadly you don't understand the importance of the notes. Yes I do. They are ment for documenting changes. But what does it matter if you don't actually change anything? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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This is true for existing profiles. However, I'm pretty sure someone can add a new profile to the online and change the capitalization in that profile.
I on the otherhand don't believe that's true Like I said earlier, I have profiles where I'm the one who has done initial credits contribution with "von", and if I update them now online shows "Von". I have to admit I was wrong here, since I found an online profile with "von". So both "von" and "Von" can exist on online db, but I still believe you cannot change the capitalization for existing profile. Now I just have to wait for someone to prove me wrong. I already did half of the job myself | | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | What about what I posted? Where Ken himself says...
The case-based ping-ponging can occur, but it amounts to nothing as the changes are not downloaded for those that already have that actor.
that definitely sounds like it changes to me. But he even considered it not to matter. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | But Pete, is it something that might nerd changing in my local. I can't know that unless the contributor tells me what is happening and why,
.Perhaps Maclachlan was incorrectly entered and it should read MacLachlan, iwould want to correct my local data but instead of providing useful info, the contributor provides nothing but a quote from ken. So...Kathy is not concerned about other users | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | We both know that the only thing that HAS to be done is however much Ken says HAS to be done. So I personally can't see voting no to something Ken feels is correct. So I don't vote no to such things.
The way I personally do it. If I know what I have is correct beyond a shadow of a doubt I let it be known... with the documentation. If I don't know I don't add the info to my notes. Simple as that. Both ways is correct from how Ken wants it done.... and the way I see it... it is his database so he is the boss.
Of course that has nothing to do with my above post. It was no more then showing Kulju that according to Ken the change does effect the online database. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forum Moderator: Removed | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Forum Moderator |
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