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Thinking about finally getting into HDTV, what do I really need?
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Can doesn't mean they will .

Of course not.  Studios would never do anything that's not in the best interests of the consumer. 

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Can doesn't mean they will .

Of course not.  Studios would never do anything that's not in the best interests of the consumer. 

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Geeeeeze...so cynical aren't we .
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OK, I am looking at that Sharp 32" HDTV that Best Buy has on sale for $250.

Because of space restrictions, 32" is the largest I can use.
And I am also thinking about buying a HDMI cable to hook up the BR player directly to the HDTV.

Everything else will go through my current A/V receiver and the video for all the other video components (VCR, DVD Recorder and PS2) will hook up to the HDTV via the composite video cable.


What is this HD Receiver that you are talking about?
Is that like an A/V Receiver or is it just to get HDTV signals?
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What is this HD Receiver that you are talking about?
Is that like an A/V Receiver or is it just to get HDTV signals?


It's a A/V Receiver that has HDMI inputs for your Blu-ray player, game consoles like the PS3 or X-box 360, HD Satelite or cable receivers, etc, and one, sometimes 2 HDMI outputs. The newer ones comply with the current HDMI standards, including 3D and decode HD Audio signals such as Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High-Resolution Audio.
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Because of space restrictions, 32" is the largest I can use.


How close will you be sitting to the screen? Imo 32" is too small to be able to fully appreciate HD, I'd recommend minimum 40" or bigger.

But then I guess all 32" are full HD these days, whether you have any use for it or not...
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OK, I am looking at that Sharp 32" HDTV that Best Buy has on sale for $250.

If it's the one I think it is, it only has 720p resolution and not 1080p, so you won't be getting the full quality from Blu-ray no matter what cabling you use.

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Because of space restrictions, 32" is the largest I can use.


How close will you be sitting to the screen? Imo 32" is too small to be able to fully appreciate HD, I'd recommend minimum 40" or bigger.

But then I guess all 32" are full HD these days, whether you have any use for it or not...


32" is pretty small...unless you live in a cardboard box of course .
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Still will be better picture quality than my 1988 NEC TV that I am using now.
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Still will be better picture quality than my 1988 NEC TV that I am using now.

Good point. If your A/V receiver is in decent condition, and you can find a link to an Amazon page with the listing (use Google), you can sell it for whatever you can get, and apply it towards a new A/v receiver with HDMI inputs (what we have been calling an HD receiver). You will be very happy.

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If possible connect your picture sources straight to TV using any other connection than composite. In order from best to worst option:

HDMI
Component
S-video
Composite

The difference is HUGE. I just had to buy new HDMI cable and while figuring out what was the problem in my system I temporarily connected my PS3 to my projector with composite cable and the picture was unwatchable. I didn't even understood before how significant the difference is.
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Get a new receiver. You're going to have to eventually. As scotthm pointed out, after the first of the year, new blu-ray players will no longer support connections other than HDMI...kinda like the PS3 is now...no RCA outs, just HDMI. You don't need anything fancy. Just make sure your current speakers will be compatible, i.e., ohms and wattage. I just saw the Onkyo TX-NR509 5.1 Channel Network A/V Receiver for $229 on Amazon. It's a decent, albeit older, receiver but will meet your needs.

As far as the HDTV goes, at 32" you're not going to be able to tell much of a difference between 720p and 1080p anyways so you might as well stick with the Sharp 32" for $250 because a 1080p will run you significantly higher.
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kinda like the PS3 is now...no RCA outs, just HDMI.

Actually that's not true. At least my PS3 came with adapter for composhite and analog stereo out (3*RCA).
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kinda like the PS3 is now...no RCA outs, just HDMI.

Actually that's not true. At least my PS3 came with adapter for composhite and analog stereo out (3*RCA).


Ahhhh...you're right. You're referring to the A/V multiout port. Mine didn't come with an adapter. Of course, I never needed it. It only supports 2 channel stereo as far as I'm aware though.
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Ahhhh...you're right. You're referring to the A/V multiout port. Mine didn't come with an adapter. Of course, I never needed it. It only supports 2 channel stereo as far as I'm aware though.

Yup, that's the one. I only needed it once for testing and the picture quality was horrible  . Luckily it was only broken HDMI cable and my PS3 was fine  . And yes, 2 channel stereo support only.
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If your Blu-ray player has the ability to do multi-channel analog out and your receiver can take this in, you can put off the new receiver. I would definitely recommend HDMI from the player to the TV (or with a capable receiver between). All you'd have to buy extra is the cable and it could save you some trouble.
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Got the Sharp and got it all hooked up today.

The SD video looks great. But the HDMI connected BR player looks stunning.
I still have to work on getting the video just the way that I like it.
All the standard def stuff is pillarboxed, Smart Stretch looks passable, but the Stretch and Zoom just looks awful.

I watched some Mission Impossible on Blu-Ray and the picture is awesome. The detail is great. Almost like 3D at times.

I sort of wish that the zoom was controllable to allow me to zoom in a certain section of the picture like my DVD recorders zoom does.

I am happy camper right now.
Still going to keep my old tv and put in storage just in case something ever happens I have a backup tv.
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