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You have your opinion about the online database, and I'm happy for you that you consider it perfect for your use.
It is not for me, (though I find the program itself really wonderful) since I regret that the present names contribution rules do not allow correct linking, and title rules do not allow correct searching. I also think that cosmetic features as reproducing spelling mistakes or adding group dividers should be kept for local use.

You consider that I have no right to give my opinion here and you always try to censor me. If this makes you happier, no problem, but I'll still say what I think...

Never said you had no right to express an opinion and I never censored you. I merely expressed my opinion regarding your constant, incessant, disparaging remarks regarding invelos's rules and database which can be found in every thread in these forums. You can, by all means, continue to express your inain opinion for as long as you like and I'll continue to express mine .

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The best is to avoid to use the online database.

The best for you, but not the best for everybody.

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the present names contribution rules do not allow correct linking, and title rules do not allow correct searching.

With all the flaws the online database and the contribution rules have, it's really not necessary that you misrepresent the situation to make things appear worse than they are.

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Definitely not the best for people (like him) who worked very hard to get all their names to link.

I don't believe I said otherwise.  All I did was point out that, while it might be the best choice for him, it is not the best choice for everyone.  I know quite a few people who, like myself, couldn't give a rat's behind whether or not the names actually link.  For me, the fact that they match the actual credits is more than enough because, from that base starting point, I can do what I please.

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I know quite a few people who, like myself, couldn't give a rat's behind whether or not the names actually link.

Thanks for stating publicly where you stand.

While I am not quite sure why you would thank me for stating my position, you are quite welcome...though this 'stance' isn't anything new, at least it shouldn't be to anybody who has been around longer than, say, a year.  I have, since the day it was added, stated that linking isn't important to me as I don't use Profiler in a way that requires it.  As long as the cast/crew match the actual film credits, I am happy.

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I agree with you on the cast and crew, reflecting exactly how they are contributed on screen.  I'm not a big fan of the CLT since most of the older profiles have incorrect credits.

With present rules, you do not have linking, but you do not have exactly what is on screen. When on screen you have Nicole KIDMAN, you have Nicole Kidman in the online, and when you have NICOLE KIDMAN on screen, you still have Nicole Kidman in the online. With present rules, you do not have linking (specially for accented names), and you do not have exactly what is on screen (each time you change capitalization, which is 99% of cases, but made in a wrong way for accents). In fact I do not know what you have, but if you are OK with that, I'm happy for you. To say that it can be "the best" for somebody ...well...

As for the CLT, I agree with you that it is a nightmare, just because it replaces correctly spelled names by invented names.

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I agree with you on the cast and crew, reflecting exactly how they are contributed on screen.  I'm not a big fan of the CLT since most of the older profiles have incorrect credits.

With present rules, you do not have linking, but you do not have exactly what is on screen. When on screen you have Nicole KIDMAN, you have Nicole Kidman in the online, and when you have NICOLE KIDMAN on screen, you still have Nicole Kidman in the online. With present rules, you do not have linking (specially for accented names), and you do not have exactly what is on screen (each time you change capitalization, which is 99% of cases, but made in a wrong way for accents). In fact I do not know what you have, but if you are OK with that, I'm happy for you. To say that it can be "the best" for somebody ...well...

As for the CLT, I agree with you that it is a nightmare, just because it replaces correctly spelled names by invented names.

My exactly is with the spelling in the name Not the Font. What do you do if the names are in cursive? Or Chinese do I have to enter it in chinese symbols? Now I have to learn to translate Chinese. There has to be a reasonable rule. Let's start by getting the on screen names correct. Maybe no more Common name in the database, it would just be local and when you contribute, it would only contribute credited names. Then you could put any common name you like with or without accents in your local and link all credited names for that person. But when you do a contribution it wouldn't contribute your common name. So if you want to use The Rock as your local common name it would still link Dwayne Johnson and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson titles to him but it wouldn't effect my local.

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it would only contribute credited names...

The problem is that present tules do not use credited names, but transform them, generating non existing names. In your example, you speak of The Rock, which is an easy case since Dwayne Johnson and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson are correctly spelled variants that can be used by the actor himself.

What about François Berléand, for which you find also in the database Francois Berleand, Francois Berléand, and François Berleand (none can link), that were correctly capitalized on credits, but transformed to incorrectly spelled names, that would never be used by the actor himself. Those variants do not exist in credits, only in the database after transformation by contributors.

Whoa, wait a minute. Are you saying that in cases where François Berléand is credited exactly that way on screen, people are contributing it to the online as Francois Berleand? That's not right, and it's totally against the rules!