Blame the victims?

That is very insensitive.

Every day in every place in human society, evil acts are committed. Do we blame Scotland for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 on December 21, 1988? No. In addition to the passengers and crew, eleven innocent Scots died in that tragedy. By your convoluted logic, Scotland might have prevented those eleven's deaths by forbidding any aircraft from flying over their airspace. In fact, if everything was completely forbidden, then we'd all starve to death and then there would be no further tragedies, ever!

Nations cannot protect everyone from all conceivable harms, and have even more difficulties preventing inconceivable ones like that which struck Norway this past week. Legislate all you want; turn every nation into a watched police state... evil acts will still occur, because there are people who will never be stopped from doing terrible terrible things. We live with life as it is, trying to survive and make things better. But sometimes thinks go wrong and people die. Everything is impermanent. We can attempt to build the best safety factors we can, but stuff happens and people can commit evil acts of horrendous violence. To expect that this can be prevented in every instance is to fail at life, and shift responsibility to those who work to protect us, and obscures the evilness in the killer's heart.

What, exactly, should the Norwegian government, or all of the Norwegian society, have done to stop these particular killings? I expect a fool-proof guarantee, nothing less. Otherwise your attitude is amazingly foolish.

Quoting VibroCount:

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Blame the victims?

That is very insensitive.

Every day in every place in human society, evil acts are committed. Do we blame Scotland for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 on December 21, 1988? No. In addition to the passengers and crew, eleven innocent Scots died in that tragedy. By your convoluted logic, Scotland might have prevented those eleven's deaths by forbidding any aircraft from flying over their airspace. In fact, if everything was completely forbidden, then we'd all starve to death and then there would be no further tragedies, ever!

Nations cannot protect everyone from all conceivable harms, and have even more difficulties preventing inconceivable ones like that which struck Norway this past week. Legislate all you want; turn every nation into a watched police state... evil acts will still occur, because there are people who will never be stopped from doing terrible terrible things. We live with life as it is, trying to survive and make things better. But sometimes thinks go wrong and people die. Everything is impermanent. We can attempt to build the best safety factors we can, but stuff happens and people can commit evil acts of horrendous violence. To expect that this can be prevented in every instance is to fail at life, and shift responsibility to those who work to protect us, and obscures the evilness in the killer's heart.

What, exactly, should the Norwegian government, or all of the Norwegian society, have done to stop these particular killings? I expect a fool-proof guarantee, nothing less. Otherwisattitude is amazingly foolish.

Im not blaming the victims. Im making the point of a collective faulier within Norwegian socity. Just like the Germans have had to except there responsibility for the rise of the Nazis. Norway should maybe look at how open there socity is leaving there way of life open to atrocitys such as this.

In Scotland we are pretty open socity. But as an example in a place i used to live in when someone was found to be carrying a gun in a pub. Within 3 mins an armed response squad of 40 men equiped with machine guns.

Surrounded the place. It turned out the person with the gun was only going to pop himself. If someone was even to attempt what that guy done in Norway here he would be stoped very quickly.

I am lost for words as well! I'm working for a Norwegian shipping company and all my condolences go to my Norwegian friends.

The terrorist was blond and blue eyed. I don't dare to think what would happen if he would be dark haired and brown eyed...

Would you PLEASE stop now? 

Quoting Katatonia:

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Westboro Baptist Church Plans To Picket At Norway Funerals

Disgusting creeps. I sure hope they aren't even allowed one foot in Norway.

Agree, they are totally nuts!