There are pros and cons with almost any program. We could spend pages discussing those issues and have done so many times in the past.

To focus strictly on your topic there are a few things I would like to point out.

There are two areas that directly address the contribution process:
- http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx
- http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=430575

These areas will give you the basic knowledge you will need in order to contribute to the database. If you have any questions you can always bring them to the forum and the community will do its best to answer them.

As others have stated, as far as invelos and contributing to the database is concerned, the ideal place to get the data is directly from the DVD cover or the DVD credits.

If you follow this basic tenant, your contributions should always be accepted.

There are a few instances in which this is not possible. For example Country of Origin (CoO), SRP, even such data as Cast Roles.

In these cases third party databases, such as IMDb, TCM, amazon.com etc., will need to be utilized.

The important thing to remember is that we are never allowed to use a single third party database. In order to contribute that type of data, multiple sources documenting the same information must be used.

There are many reasons such as to ensure accuracy but the most important is the legal ramifications that might result.

It sounds a bit confusing but the more you contribute the easier it becomes.

Don't we have enough threads about GERARD DEPARDIEU? 

I'm sorry Yves but I disagree. This thread strictly addressed the validity of IMDb data relative to the contribution process.

Although I understand your frustration regarding the correct spelling of names, I don't feel this thread should address that topic.

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I really don't care what the "real" name is... I couldn't care less if a name is mis-spelled... it is just the way it is.

It is just a problem of consistency. You explained to tarzanfilip that IMDB is far from accurate to the actual credits. Concerning names (I agree with you that they rewrite some roles), they are quite 100% accurate in all cases in all languages. I never saw a French name mispelled in IMDb, and there, I'm not hijacking the thread, this is exactly the subject. I personally can not verify Spanish, Swedish or Czech names, but since all French names are correctly accented, I may suppose most are also correct in other languages.

I understand that your accuracy is accuracy to Invelos rules. I agree with you that the Invelos online database is more accurate to Invelos rules than IMDb. No problem if you prefer that accuracy, but do not speak of accuracy to actual film.

And in names' case, there are strictly no problems of rights. Nobody can copyright the correct spelling of a name, so no reproach can be done using it.

I am talking the actual FILM and I fully mean the actual FILM as I explained... I go by what I see in the credits. and nothing more. Most of the roles names are way off from the credits. And that is a big part of the credits... If the role names do not match the credits then IMDB is not accurate to the credits. That is a fact. Like it or not. So don't tell me not to speak of the accuracy to actual film. Because taking it as a whole IMDB is NOT accurate to the actual film!

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I'm sorry Yves but I disagree. This thread strictly addressed the validity of IMDb data relative to the contribution process.

What made this thread derail was what was said about accuracy per actual film, which was not true. If we had spoken accuracy about Invelos rules, I had nothing to say.

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strange to want everything correct per the actual film?

everything bolded by me.

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I'm sorry Yves but I disagree. This thread strictly addressed the validity of IMDb data relative to the contribution process.

What made this thread derail was what was said about accuracy per actual film, which was not true. If we had spoken accuracy about Invelos rules, I had nothing to say.

Then, to bring it back on track:

I believe that your question has been answered. If you have any further questions or concerns please ask.

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My saying I WANT everything accurate to the film credits. Oh my! 

Sorry, but all you want is accuracy to Invelos rules. You even wrote "I really don't care what the "real" name is". Film credits are correct, but are changed without reason per Invelos rules (that are even not written in rules, by the way, just hidden somewhere in the forums...)

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My saying I WANT everything accurate to the film credits. Oh my! 

Sorry, but all you want is accuracy to Invelos rules. You even wrote "I really don't care what the "real" name is". Film credits are correct, but are changed without reason per Invelos rules (that are even not written in rules, by the way, just hidden somewhere in the forums...)

I like IMDb and often use it. But, this is an invelos database and invelos rules.

As such, the community needs to, as far as the online database, follow those standards set by Ken and invelos irregardless of personal preferences including such things as errors.

The local database is designed to support those areas in which are personal preferences do not align with those set by the owner of the program.

Ken wants us to take as much data as feasible from the DVD or its cover - it that includes mistakes, so be it.

But, even mistakes can be be dealt with - change the data locally, lock the database and hit the "never contribute" button.