Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Yes, they are listed in the film's end credits, but the rules, for some odd reason, have their own definition of what 'end credits' are...which is why I said "as defined by the rules".

From the rules:

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For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits".

If this doesn't mean the section where they are all listed together, a good portion of the cast rules that follow, don't need to be there...the portion about puppeteers being one of them.

"Standard" film credits is, to me, the key word.

We take actor/puppeteer credits from the opening credits - these would be considered NOT "standard".

We take actor/puppeteer credits listed together in the end credits - these would be considered "standard".

We take actor/puppeteer credits outside of those listed together in the end credits - these would be considered NOT "standard".

The Puppeteer issue has been discussed before - unfortunately without any definitive answer resulting:

http://dvdprofiler.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=416294&PageNum=1

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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This is my point...if they aren't listed together, they are neither standard nor 'end credits', as definded by the rules, so they can't be entered.

But that's the thing. I've seen films before (one just the other day) that split the Actors in the end credits. They'll list the main Actors first. And next they'll list much of the Crew. And then later there will be another section with the remainder of the film's actors credited. Sometimes they'll be under a group that'll say "Additional Actors", "Supporting Cast" or similar. And I mean textual credits, not the visual Actor credits often seen just after a film ends. Do we not add those just because of their sections? I wouldn't think so.

I see this in the rules as important here:

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The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers.

That can be interpreted as meaning a single unbreaking section, or seperate sections in the order the filmmakers decided. I don't see the current rules truly distinguishing between the two.

Quoting Katatonia:

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That can be interpreted as meaning a single unbreaking section, or seperate sections in the order the filmmakers decided. I don't see the current rules truly distinguishing between the two.

They don't, but they used to...

As noted in the post Kathy linked to, the rule used to read, "For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits"."

I am not sure when, or why, but the word 'together' was removed from the rule.  What should have been removed, if the intent of the rule is to call the closing credits 'standard credits', is the phrase after the dash.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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I am not sure when, or why, but the word 'together' was removed from the rule.  What should have been removed, if the intent of the rule is to call the closing credits 'standard credits', is the phrase after the dash.

It was probably removed because of the example (Split Actors) I listed above, and 'together' would of course specifically forbid that. That's why I can't really see Puppeteers being any different, as the rules say they should be included. It doesn't currently state where they have to be located in the end credits...

My vote:

Jones & Steele = separate entries, no divider
Mears = include
Fitzgerald = no (stunt credit)
Dashaw & Davison = no
Stunts = no
Puppeteers = yes (this is no different than "additional voices" which are being accepted)

Quoting m.cellophane:

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My vote:

Jones & Steele = separate entries, no divider
Mears = include
Fitzgerald = no (stunt credit)
Dashaw & Davison = no
Stunts = no
Puppeteers = yes (this is no different than "additional voices" which are being accepted)

Agree on all counts apart from Fitzgerald, I don't want to enter extensive list's of stunt personnel but when a person is credited with a specific role/character then i see no reason not to credit them (even if it is a "stunt" credit)

Quoting ninehours:

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Quoting m.cellophane:

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My vote:

Jones & Steele = separate entries, no divider
Mears = include
Fitzgerald = no (stunt credit)
Dashaw & Davison = no
Stunts = no
Puppeteers = yes (this is no different than "additional voices" which are being accepted)

Agree on all counts apart from Fitzgerald, I don't want to enter extensive list's of stunt personnel but when a person is credited with a specific role/character then i see no reason not to credit them (even if it is a "stunt" credit)

Like "Stunt Double for Mr. Hanks" for (hypothetical) example?