@CharlieM - well put.

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You make some valid points, and it sounds like an interesting idea (I just don't want you to take this the wrong way), but you also have to realize that we all have requests, big and small, and in the end what you are asking for is just another request (or a collection of them) to be added to the list.

You may not be aware of this, but DVDP has only one programmer: its creator, Ken. Will there ever be more people involved in the programming to spread the workload away from only one person? Who knows. But just like mediadogg mentioned about his plugin, Ken only has so many hours in a day to work on new features, and of course he isn't going to dedicate all of them to it. So that also means, the larger the request, the less likely it will be implemented any time soon.


One last point: not everyone wants change away from what they feel already works, and the bigger the change, the worse. (I say it this way only because of your choice of words such as "revamp" and making the statement because of "other programs"). While change can bring in new people, it can also drive away people who have put in years of dedication because they liked a program just the way that it was before the changes. I've seen both websites and software die off because of large changes being made.

Large changes are always a gamble, not a guarantee of furthered or improved success.

Actually I am aware that Invelos is a small company. Not relevant to my request.  It may be relevant to Invelos' response, but not to my request. Either way,  they will do it or they won't.  I feel strongly that DVDP should do this to stay competitive in addition to the fact it would benefit me personally, but that's just me  . If they don't that's their choice, and I'll have to make mine whatever that is.

Also note I am not requesting DVDP change away from anything. I am asking for additional functionality to the existing feature set.  Simple. OK, maybe not so simple to implement, but simple in concept. 

And no, I am not offended by any replies so far.

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From what I have seen, most of these other solutions don't do it by themselves.

Dune player and Popcorn player are hardware solution, similar to Microsoft's hardware media player.  They require a software solution with a different piece of software.  They all will work with WMP for there play-lists, also through third party providers.

Even MyMovies is 3 base programs to do the job, and even there documentation says that you need 1 or 2 other pieces of software to make it work the way you suggest.

Then there are the legal issues.  Within the US, it is legal to duplicate a disc for personal use, but make security decoding software is another issue.  Even the Kaleidoscope system, had enormous legal hurdles to be able to do what they do.

Profiler provides for the possibility of many things, either through HTML or through an XML export.  It is there.

If you want further capabilities, do what Mediadogg did, program them yourself, and share them. We people that don't have the time or ability will thank you for your contribution.

No the other programs don't do it by themselves.  Media players, whether hardware or software, have to be present in the system for this to work.  That is not the issue and never has been. I am not requesting DVDP become a media player, only a front end ro manage my collection (it does this part already) and have the additional ability to invoke one of these existing media players and point it to a video file to play.

The implementation may be tricky.  I never thought otherwise.  Again, though, that is not relevant to my request.  My Movies is implemented however its implemented.  Don't want to get into a discussion of the technical details of a competing program on Invelos' forum.  The main thing is that these other programs are doing the things I request and, as near as I can tell, DVDP does not.

I fail to see any legal issues for DVDP.  Assuming DVDP had these abilities, all it would see is a non-copy protected, unencrypted file to throw at the media player.  How it gets from the physical disk to the hard drive in that state would be my problem, not DVDP's.

Look, I am not going to throw a tantrum if this doesn't happen, I'll just make my choice and do what I have to do.

I mean, really, this is a feature request forum, is it not?

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I mean, really, this is a feature request forum, is it not?

Yes it is, but you don't do a feature request but a redesign request and request that DVDP takes a 180 degree turn.

There is difference between asking to add a new locality or a better implementation of the watched stats or a new linking system and asking that DVDP became a different kind of software. The softwares doing this already exist, so why not use them? I don't ask this in a negative way, I am just curious

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I mean, really, this is a feature request forum, is it not?

Yes it is, but you don't do a feature request but a redesign request and request that DVDP takes a 180 degree turn.

There is difference between asking to add a new locality or a better implementation of the watched stats or a new linking system and asking that DVDP became a different kind of software. The softwares doing this already exist, so why not use them? I don't ask this in a negative way, I am just curious

I don't agree that I am asking for DVDP to be a different kind of software.  I see this as a logical extension for what DVDP already does. Media management software is evolving and since I like DVDP, I would like to see it evolve as well to handle those tasks it is suited for.

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Note that I have a Dune and others will have a Popcorn Hour, and there are other media players out there coming into the market as well. So, there is the added complication of supporting multiple pieces of hardware.

As mediadogg pointed out, there was a similar request some months ago that never was followed up.

DVD Profiler has a complete XML-Export which can, most likely, solve a lot of problems, we only need to know what has to be produced. Then, and only then e.g. I could bash together a quick XSLT for starters and later on if there is demand mediadogg or one of the other programmers here might provide a 'one-click-solution'
(or if the problem is too complicated for me I'll start bugging mediadogg immediately  )

The nicest thing about that, DVD Profiler hasn't have to change for it a bit and all we need is already there.

cya, Mithi

This isn't an answer at all, you tell me why you like DVDP not why you don't try the available softwares doing what you want.

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This isn't an answer at all, you tell me why you like DVDP not why you don't try the available softwares doing what you want.

I am trying other programs, but I still would like to see DVDP these abilities as well.  Um, what is your point?

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I simply want it to have the added ability to initiate playback of those titles by using the already stored video files and sending those files to an existing hardware or software media player,

Well, I don't know the Dune, but NMT-Devices are as far as I know not remote-controllable, so you are kind of putting the cart before the horse.

The way to go IMHO would be to create a "play-list" that can be browsed on the media-player. Said play-list can of course be as intricate as the player allows, meaning covers, overviews, cast- and crew-lists etc. pp.

cya, Mithi