This is another issue where i'd like to have a standard credits based on the movie instead of the specific dvd/BR. This way there are no profiles without credits and more people get to vote on a credit  change.

Paul

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I have made this mistake several times from when I first joined and wasn't really aware of the rules and/or complications because I cloned cast into UK profiles and submitted them to the online, stating where I had cloned them from. I'm in the process of fixing these.    

Don't be embarrassed as, unless I have misremembered, this practice is also allowed by Invelos.  While it is preferable to check the credits against your own copy, it isn't required.  As long as you state the UPC/EAN of the profile you cloned, you are good.  I don't like it, but it is what it is.

I'm slowly improving

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It is allowed and also there's nothing to prevent someone who actually owns the DVD in question from doing a proper as-credited update later from the actual disc. In the meantime though, cloning an approved as-credited cast from another profile to replace IMDb-scraped data will get us miles closer to a usable CLT.

The concern is that somebody may replace a proper as-credited audit with cloned data. I'll only clone if one disc is missing large amounts of data.

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It is allowed and also there's nothing to prevent someone who actually owns the DVD in question from doing a proper as-credited update later from the actual disc. In the meantime though, cloning an approved as-credited cast from another profile to replace IMDb-scraped data will get us miles closer to a usable CLT.

The concern is that somebody may replace a proper as-credited audit with cloned data. I'll only clone if one disc is missing large amounts of data.

I don't think that's what we're talking about though? We're talking about replacing obvious IMDb data with data from another as-credited profile.

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Yes... and if I remember right... that is when Ken said it could be done. Not only that... I do believe I remember him saying if the people that actually own the disc don't want the cloned data it is within their rights to vote no to it.

True. I think I found the quote:

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In general, contributions should be made only for profiles which the contributor owns and can verify.  Similarly, contribution votes should be made only for profiles which the voter owns and can verify. 

However, there are exceptions.  Obviously, prerelease contributions do not require ownership.  They should be basic starter information (e.g. complete cast and crew is impossible to correctly contribute without having the disc).

Taking another case, if a particular locality has blank or limited cast info, and the submitter would like to fill it in with their verified cast from their own locality, I would tend to allow the voters who actually own the submitted locality to make the call. However, the submitted contribution notes should clearly indicate that the cast is from the other locality, so that the voters and contribution evaluators can make an informed choice.

One additional reminder to please keep the contribution vote notes completely civil at all times.

Is there a thread where people list what they have recently completed cast or/and crew audits on? It would be nice to see so if the contributor hasn't got time to clone to other profiles themselves, then others can do it.

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Is there a thread where people list what they have recently completed cast or/and crew audits on? It would be nice to see so if the contributor hasn't got time to clone to other profiles themselves, then others can do it.

You know, Sam that's not a bad idea.

What Ken also said was that although this was the position he was  "happy to reconsider this policy if the community feels it is necessary"

Judging by the last vote on the matter the community overwhelming thinks it is necessary:
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It was during that vote thread that he made the statement that he would reconsider the position if the community wanted him to.
I am also happy with anything that cleans up the database and in your case I am happy that it helps a lot, but you have no way of knowing if there are regional differences and if others are not so meticulous do it then one missed error spreads like a virus.

It would have helped just as easily if you had just pointed out the update in a thread such as is being suggested and waited for those who own the DVDs to incorporate it into their database and verify it against their own copies before uploading. Surely this would be better as it will provide a check against mistakes and regional differences?