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Quoting GSyren:

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What I meant was that "Not Rated"and "Unrated" are not really ratings, as defined by the MPAA. As such they are imaginary, even if they happen to be on the cover.

While this is true, the rules don't require that they be MPAA ratings.  The only requirement for ratings is that it be printed on the case.  Of course, it has to be one of the ones built into the program but that's about it.

In my view, the fact that it's written on the cover still doesn't make it a rating.
If the back cover had said "Subtitles: None" would that have made "None" a subtitle? Of course not.
Similarly, if it says "Not rated" then that's not a rating.

While going through some of my titles to check on ratings details, I was very surprised to find that filmratings.com, which usually will simply not find a matching title for an "Unrated" film, but when I checked the title "Easier With Practice", it actually came up - with a rating of "Unrated".

Not saying it was right wrong or whatever. Just interesting.  BTW, the subject matter of that film wouldn't have been something I'd group in with kiddie-fare. Perhaps, it had been submitted for a rating but was subsequently withdrawn? <shrug>

Confirmed - FilmRatings.com also shows "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" as 'Unrated'.  If you've seen this one, you know it was submitted to the MPAA, got a NC-17 and was subsequently withdrawn.

Quoting GSyren:

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In my view, the fact that it's written on the cover still doesn't make it a rating.
If the back cover had said "Subtitles: None" would that have made "None" a subtitle? Of course not.
Similarly, if it says "Not rated" then that's not a rating.

For Profiler purposes, 'NR' and 'Unrated' are ratings.  You don't have to agree, but it is a fact.  As to your subtitles example, I can't select 'none' for subtitles so it isn't quite the same thing.

Quoting Grendell:

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How is everyone adding "unrated" when there hasn't been a program update to add it yet?

The ability came through the online profile list rather than a program update. Refresh that and you should be good to go.

Here's my $0.02.

Not Rated / Unrated movies are movies without a specific rating (MPAA or otherwise)

RATING DETAILS: A descriptor to designate the reasoning behind a particular rating.

Therefore: Advisory Warnings ? Ratings Details

If Ken wants to change the field to "Advisory details" then I would support adding advisory information from the packaging in that field.  But as the field exists, it is solely a qualifier for the rating provided in the Rating field.  If there is no actual rating (as in the case of NR and Unrated), then there is nothing to qualify.  Basically, it's like saying (null)+3.

For DVD Profiler purposes, unrated is a rating, with age restrictions and everything, so i think it makes sense to explain rating reasons.

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I don't particularly mind mixing them and the Rules (at least now) don't prohibit having Unrated/NR with Ratings detail.  But is that the right answer?

In regard to Region 4 (Australia & NewZealand), we need to use Profiler's NR Classification for iDVDs that are declared "Exempt from Classification". This classification is usually applied to Educational (Documentaries, Childrens) which do not have to be submitted for classication (rating) because of their declared content. This does not apply to Documentaries/Educational etc DVDs which may contain content (violence, war, nudity coarse language etc.) deemed subject to appropriate classification (PG, M, MA etc).
For Region 4, we need to have the "Exempt" classification (Rating) included in Profiler. Region 2 (UK) already has this option. I submitted an English (AU) localisation translation 12 months ago, however at the time I could not see where to have "Exempt" included in the translation file as I couldn't spot it in the English (UK) translation file either. I may need to re-visit and request forum assistance in amending the English(AU) file.

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In Australia and New Zealand, IIRC, ratings are legally required except for the stuff that's exempt. "Unrated" won't be added to your locality and this won't affect you unless you import. Listing exempt as NR is correct. In the US and Canada, ratings are voluntary and some stuff isn't submitted. In many cases, a movie will be cut to get a rating in the theaters, then the uncut version released on video. This is what Unrated mainly tracks.

Thanks Ace...