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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I am no expert, I have done some research, and there is no standard parsing for Native American names. Customs can, and do, vary from tribe to tribe and nation to nation. While I can't tell you the proper parsing, because there isn't one based on our standard, the current ones...as listed in the OP...are wrong as they split the names where there should be no split. In my opinion...
Floyd/Red Crow/Westerman makes sense.
Nathan/Lee Chasing His/Horse should be Nathan/Lee/Chasing His Horse.
Jason/R. Lone/Hill should be Jason/R./Lone Hill.
Percy/White/Plum should be Percy/ /White Plum.
Clayton/Big/Eagle should be Clayton/ /Big Eagle.
Ryan/White/Bull should be Ryan/ /White Bull.
Maretta/Big/Crow should be Maretta/ /Big Crow.
Redwing/Ted/Nez makes sense as well.
Richard/Leader/Charge should be Richard/ /Leader Charge.
Again, that is just my opinion. Placing them all in the first name field, however, just doesn't make any sense as these are not 'stage names'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agreed with the Mad Martian on all accounts. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
If I ever saw a really good argument fo a single name field I would say it's right here.  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Floyd/Red Crow/Westerman makes sense.
Nathan/Lee Chasing His/Horse should be Nathan/Lee/Chasing His Horse.
Jason/R. Lone/Hill should be Jason/R./Lone Hill.
Percy/White/Plum should be Percy/ /White Plum.
Clayton/Big/Eagle should be Clayton/ /Big Eagle.
Ryan/White/Bull should be Ryan/ /White Bull.
Maretta/Big/Crow should be Maretta/ /Big Crow.
Redwing/Ted/Nez makes sense as well.
Richard/Leader/Charge should be Richard/ /Leader Charge. Agreed on all. This would match "common" sense too. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Fully agree with the Martian! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While I am no expert, I have done some research, and there is no standard parsing for Native American names. Customs can, and do, vary from tribe to tribe and nation to nation. While I can't tell you the proper parsing, because there isn't one based on our standard, the current ones...as listed in the OP...are wrong as they split the names where there should be no split. In my opinion...
Floyd/Red Crow/Westerman makes sense.
Nathan/Lee Chasing His/Horse should be Nathan/Lee/Chasing His Horse.
Jason/R. Lone/Hill should be Jason/R./Lone Hill.
Percy/White/Plum should be Percy/ /White Plum.
Clayton/Big/Eagle should be Clayton/ /Big Eagle.
Ryan/White/Bull should be Ryan/ /White Bull.
Maretta/Big/Crow should be Maretta/ /Big Crow.
Redwing/Ted/Nez makes sense as well.
Richard/Leader/Charge should be Richard/ /Leader Charge.
Again, that is just my opinion. Placing them all in the first name field, however, just doesn't make any sense as these are not 'stage names'. 100% |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Fully agree with the Martian! They all look right to me, too. <== Native American of European Descent | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | <Dupe.> | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wait, you are using logic and common sense here. Tread carefully here.  |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote:
Quoting dee1959jay:
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Fully agree with the Martian!
They all look right to me, too.
<== Native American of European Descent I would also agree. These would be what my common sense also would say is the most logical. As this differs from the normal parsing problems for me this would be enough, but I've doubts that there could everyone agree.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Those names are another good example why it does make sense that there is no default for parsing names given in the rules. Every name is different and we can often make a sensible guess how to parse a name (see this thread) while it would be difficult to document the parsing to exclude any possible doubt. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Martian's parsing is quite exactly what I have in my local. I have also Doris//Leader Charge. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While I am no expert, I have done some research, and there is no standard parsing for Native American names. Customs can, and do, vary from tribe to tribe and nation to nation. While I can't tell you the proper parsing, because there isn't one based on our standard, the current ones...as listed in the OP...are wrong as they split the names where there should be no split. In my opinion...
Floyd/Red Crow/Westerman makes sense.
Nathan/Lee Chasing His/Horse should be Nathan/Lee/Chasing His Horse.
Jason/R. Lone/Hill should be Jason/R./Lone Hill.
Percy/White/Plum should be Percy/ /White Plum.
Clayton/Big/Eagle should be Clayton/ /Big Eagle.
Ryan/White/Bull should be Ryan/ /White Bull.
Maretta/Big/Crow should be Maretta/ /Big Crow.
Redwing/Ted/Nez makes sense as well.
Richard/Leader/Charge should be Richard/ /Leader Charge.
Again, that is just my opinion. Placing them all in the first name field, however, just doesn't make any sense as these are not 'stage names'. This is the way I would parse them as well. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Martian's parsing is quite exactly what I have in my local. I have also Doris//Leader Charge. Right, missed that one in my list. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Think Martian is as good as we're goign to get without specific info. |
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