I'm not sure why you call my argument a straw man argument.

As best as I can understand you argue that Robotics Special Effects Supervisor is allowed because it is still a Special Effects Supervisor, but Dialog Director is not allowed because it is not a Director?

Well. I think we need some consistency in applying the rules. Either an additional word matters or it does not. How else can we determine which crew titles are admissible? Surely not by common sense?

The dialogue director or dialogue coach is the person who trains the actors in diction and/or the use of inflections, so that his or her speech fits the character and situation. This is certainly not a movie director that look pretty simple and clear to me.

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The dialogue director or dialogue coach is the person who trains the actors in diction and/or the use of inflections, so that his or her speech fits the character and situation. This is certainly not a movie director that look pretty simple and clear to me.

You are missing my point.

We determine which crew titles are admissible based solely on the list in the rules, not upon what we know of their functions. Otherwise we would have "functional equivalents"...

So if a prefix is not allowable when the roles is "Director", why is it allowable when the role is "Special Effects Supervisor"? And how do we know when it is allowable? Skip has many times rules out common sense, so what is the answer? Skip won't give it, he just gets into his usual routine of "agendas". I have no agenda. I have no problem with Robotics Speciel Effects Supervisor as such. I just want some clarity as to when the crew table applies and when it does not.

Well, I decided to vote Neutral on this. While I would not mind seeing Robotics SE Supervisor in the crew, I am confused as to whether it is allowed or not. I was hoping for some clarification here, but since none has been given I guess I cannot vote either Yes or No.

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And we're back to "anything goes" again... 

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No, insut, pal. You keep telling me not to read you beyond what you say. I said you have me confused and you do.

It wasn't the confused portion that was the insult, it was the " inability to see the issue properly" remark.

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BTW we have seen no such thing as a Special Photographic Effects Supervisor, it is simply Special Photographic Effects, they have been contributed numerous times, despite the what the chart says and they have been ACCEPTED by the screeners, numerous times, despite No votes pointing out the chart. This credit does not exist from Profiler's view, at this time but it has been rammed down  our throats by some users, though I do not accept such data, it ghas still been accepted. and a Robotioc Special Effects Suyopervisor is closer to what we want than anything that saya Special Photographic Effects. I am merely responding to what other users have done and gotten approved, and at least my rationale is more consistent with the chart than is SPE is.

We may not have seen a Special Photographic Effects Supervisor, but the premise is the same.  If I am reading your post correctly, if the credit had been 'Special Robotic Effects Supervisor', you would say it didn't qualify because 'Robotics' isn't a prefix.  If that isn't the case, then I don't understand your stance at all. 

You have that correct, pal. Wwe have no provision for Special X Effects, the prefix is another story, and there is no way that we could begin to even think about every possible X combination, the focus is the Special Effects Supervisor.

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We may not have seen a Special Photographic Effects Supervisor [...]

Sure we have. Splash, for instance, credits Philip Meador as exactly that: "Special Photographic Effects Supervisor".

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We may not have seen a Special Photographic Effects Supervisor [...]

Sure we have. Splash, for instance, credits Philip Meador as exactly that: "Special Photographic Effects Supervisor".

Are you kidding me?  I just pulled that out of my arse as an example credit.  Gotta love IMDb and their 'exactly as credited' listing. 

Needless to say, I would enter it as Special Effects Supervisor.