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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I personally feel that it should be exactly as the cover so that it ties in with other rules. Thank you finally someone agrees, green arrow for you! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mike: Quote:
just seems funny to me the rules state it has to be exactly as listed on the cover for such as: Use the title from the front cover,Use the Running time specified on the DVD cover,List the Region(s) shown on the cover, but not the ratings..I dont get it?? We do not enter Titles in all caps, even if it is written that way. If the run time on the case is wrong, we can change it. if the Region(s) listed on the case is wrong, we can change it. What's not to get? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,005 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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Type it however you want... when you contribute it the filter will automatically put it in the format Ken decided on.
And how should that be decided on? Is it depending on the rating locality?
Not with all languages you can simply capitalize the first letter and make the rest small. German for example, all nouns get capitalized.
This has nothing to do with any rule of writing. This is simply for display purposes. Even though it may have nothing to do with the rules, it is a filter which forces the data in a certain way into the online database. And in this case it would make it into an incorrect German sentence. Quote:
I am curious about one thing. You say all nouns are capitalized. If I write, "John took the glass of water and put it on the table," the words glass, water and table would all be capitalized? Yes, as others have written, they would be capitalized. The German translation would be: "John nahm das Glas Wasser und stellte es auf den Tisch" Any other way would simply be incorrect. So I don't like it, that only because this filter would work for the English language, that it should be used. It would make e.g. German incorrect in the database. | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TomGaines: Quote:
Yes, as others have written, they would be capitalized. The German translation would be: "John nahm das Glas Wasser und stellte es auf den Tisch"
Any other way would simply be incorrect. So I don't like it, that only because this filter would work for the English language, that it should be used. It would make e.g. German incorrect in the database. The filter doesn't even work for English. It only works half way because English rating details usually don't feature proper names. But already with the letter code of TV ratings (e.g. TV-PG DLS) the result is ugly. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Exactly... it is not like it really works for us either. the TV Ratings is a perfect example of this. But that is what Ken decided to do... so until/unless Ken changes his mind on this.. that is what we have to work with. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Filter could be expanded to leave those possible rating lettre combinations through? | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mike: Quote:
just seems funny to me the rules state it has to be exactly as listed on the cover for such as: Use the title from the front cover,Use the Running time specified on the DVD cover,List the Region(s) shown on the cover, but not the ratings..I dont get it?? The running time is actual (not from the cover if different) The region codes are as checked with software (not blindly copied from the cover) The ratings are fine on the cover - but we are trying to make something which looks clear inside dvd profiler. As others have said you can enter them yourself as you like - it's only when these are contributed that the contributed version gets filtered. Your local copy stays as you enter it | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Filter could be expanded to leave those possible rating lettre combinations through? Possible I guess... but it don't necessarily have to be those letters... all determined on what is in the ratings... and what combination they are in. So I believe it would be difficult at best. It could be DSL it could be just D... just S Just L .... DS... DL... SL.... and so on. It could be any combination of... D (suggestive dialogue) S (moderate sexual situations) L (moderate to strong language) V (moderate to strong violence) Then there is also (which is only used on TVY7 so not applicable with the others unless the TVY7 also has some of the above... that I don;t know)... FV (Fantasy Violence) | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Challenge for our Ken Cole: if not already exists? make a filter that does this: let's pass these 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 = 24 combinations or should it be permutations?
DSLV to VLSD shurely there is a solution to this? | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Exactly... it is not like it really works for us either. the TV Ratings is a perfect example of this. But that is what Ken decided to do... so until/unless Ken changes his mind on this.. that is what we have to work with. But if we don't explain the flaws of the filter to him, he will not change it.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Filter could be expanded to leave those possible rating lettre combinations through? And then the filter could be expanded to recognise German nouns and English proper names as well. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Challenge for our Ken Cole: if not already exists? make a filter that does this: let's pass these 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 = 24 combinations or should it be permutations?
DSLV to VLSD shurely there is a solution to this? And expand the filter for every other rating system that might use some abbreviations in capital letters in their rating details as well. |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting Giga Wizard:
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Challenge for our Ken Cole: if not already exists? make a filter that does this: let's pass these 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 = 24 combinations or should it be permutations?
DSLV to VLSD shurely there is a solution to this?
And expand the filter for every other rating system that might use some abbreviations in capital letters in their rating details as well. To sum up, don't filter at all? | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Exactly... it is not like it really works for us either. the TV Ratings is a perfect example of this. But that is what Ken decided to do... so until/unless Ken changes his mind on this.. that is what we have to work with.
But if we don't explain the flaws of the filter to him, he will not change it. And all this has come up in the rules committee forum before he made his decision. I am all for it if he wants to change his mind... but at the same time I will deal with whatever he decides to do. I personally think no filter at all on this field and it should be as credited on the case/in the credits/Official Site you get it from. But that is me. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I personally think no filter at all on this field and it should be as credited on the case/in the credits/Official Site you get it from. But that is me. I personally think that we could have a formatting rule (e.g. sentence formatting) which could work all over the world. And I don't think that we have to enforce this rule with a filter. The contribution system will do. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 302 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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Challenge for our Ken Cole: if not already exists? make a filter that does this: let's pass these 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 = 24 combinations or should it be permutations?
DSLV to VLSD shurely there is a solution to this?
And expand the filter for every other rating system that might use some abbreviations in capital letters in their rating details as well.
To sum up, don't filter at all? FULL ACK!  | | | regards, Mad -
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