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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
Quoting eaglejd:
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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As far as we are aware, there is only one screener and with the thousands of contributions that are made, it is easy to see how some times errors can be made when deciding to accept/decline them.
The point is now someone has to submit another change to correct the omission.
Should take you about 30 seconds, eaglejd...  Sounds innocent enough, let's play with it. 30 seconds times my owned titles equals over 2088 minutes or over 34.5 HOURS, how many such corrections shall we think about....no thanks. Get it right on the YOUR watch, don't look for anyone else to fix it. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 670 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Well, rander as i oted I will not do that, Bad data is bad data is bad data, I don't care how insignificant you think it is. I will always vote no to such data, it is your responsibility to do it RIGHT if you Contribute, I won't worry about correcting an inherited problem, though i will leave an accompanying note about it. I have ssaid this repeatedy, this is not a popularity contest, it is about TEAMWORK and all of us trying to do the best we can for EACH OTHER, that includes FIXING mistakes which may be found. I don't care and never have if the vote is 60-1 for a Contribution if that SINGLE NO has found a legitimate problem the user should not IGNORE it, he should fix the problem OR the Contribution should be DECLINED.
Skip Hmmm... Skip, this may chock you, but I completely agree! However, saying yes to a contribution with a typo in the overview, pointing it out in the comments, is in my book teamwork and the best we can do for each other! Very often, the contributor will correct the mistake and resubmit - if (s)he doesn't, it takes me 10 seconds to correct it myself and submit that. The contributor did the best (s)he could - but it seems like your take on this is "if it's not ALL right, we donøt want ANYTHING!" Fair enough, but I see it as "it may not be 100% right, but it's better than what we had..." But maybe we should suggest to Ken that the voting system be made like the online locks, so that we can vote for individual parts of a contribution - say, if someone submitted cast, crew and overview, we could vote yes to cast and crew, and no to the overview. Not sure what that would do to Gerri's and the other screeners (if any) workload... | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
| | Registered: March 24, 2007 |  Posts: 240 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Quoting tas314:
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If a user makes a full update to a place holder profile but makes one typo I'll vote yes and send a PM. 9 times out of 10 they fix the error. For that 1 time out of 10 that they don't it's MUCH easier to fix the typo myself then recreate all the work that was right but got rejected because I voted no.
On this one I've got to disagree. Although some errors are more severe than others, like completely the wrong actor (worst case scenario), an error is still an error. I don't want to sound like a mean ba****d but unless we say no to any errors then the quality of the database will go down. Normally the user who submitted it will take a few seconds to correct the issue & resubmit it.
No because if they don't fix the error I will (and maybe fill in any spots that are still blank). I'm not saying I vote yes because I don't care about an error. Given the choice... 1- Vote yes and maybe have to fix the error my self and submit. 2- Vote no and maybe have to do the whole thing my self. The end result is the same data in the database but #2 is a LOT more work. | | | | Tom. |
| | Registered: May 27, 2007 | | Posts: 175 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tas314: Quote:
I don't think all bad data is created equal.
If a user makes a full update to a place holder profile but makes one typo I'll vote yes and send a PM. 9 times out of 10 they fix the error. For that 1 time out of 10 that they don't it's MUCH easier to fix the typo myself then recreate all the work that was right but got rejected because I voted no. Hi, I thought I might weigh in on this. Any bad data in a submission should result in a NO vote in my humble opinion, especially one such as the original one "Seatlle" which is wrong no matter how you slice it (I consider listing "House of Flying Daggers" with a genre of Romance first, then Drama second as bad data, but I won't open that can of worms here). What no one has mentioned is that it is fantastically easy to Withdraw the submission, correct the error, and resubmit. No harm, no foul. So were it me, I would have voted NO and included the reason why. In theory, that should make the person resubmit (it made me do just that on two submissions) and then everyone is happy. DD. |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rooster6975: Quote:
What no one has mentioned is that it is fantastically easy to Withdraw the submission, correct the error, and resubmit. No harm, no foul.
So were it me, I would have voted NO and included the reason why. In theory, that should make the person resubmit (it made me do just that on two submissions) and then everyone is happy.
I fully agree & said as much Quote:
Normally the user who submitted it will take a few seconds to correct the issue & resubmit it. I've just done it with one of my submissions due to one little typo. I've also just re-read the voting rules - Quote:
# If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible.
# Conversely, voting "Yes" to a contribution which violates these Contribution Rules should also be avoided. So if the data is inaccurate, you should vote no to it. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | what nobody has shown is if the cover has the correct spelling of Seattle or the incorrect spelling. The spelling that is contributed should be as shown on the cover - we shouldn't make a correction to what is shown on the cover. | | | | Paul |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 113 |
| | Posted: | | | | The cover shows the correct spelling of "Seattle" - the misspelling was an inherited typo from an earlier contribution. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Michael A: Quote:
The cover shows the correct spelling of "Seattle" - the misspelling was an inherited typo from an earlier contribution. ok, Just checking. | | | | Paul |
| | Registered: May 9, 2008 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rander: Quote:
However, saying yes to a contribution with a typo in the overview, pointing it out in the comments, is in my book teamwork and the best we can do for each other! Very often, the contributor will correct the mistake and resubmit - if (s)he doesn't, it takes me 10 seconds to correct it myself and submit that. I agree the best thing to do is point out the specific errors in the comment. I would hope the person submitting would resubmit with the corrections. I know I have done this when getting even 1 no vote when that person is right even with multiple yes votes when they give specific reasons. However, I don't agree with saying Yes with the hope that the submitter or someone else will fix it later based on the comments. Tom | | | | Last edited: by tkinnen |
| | Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Posts: 240 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tkinnen: Quote:
However, I don't agree with saying Yes with the hope that the submitter or someone else will fix it later based on the comments.
Tom I don't " hope that the submitter or someone else will fix it later" I WILL fix it myself. If they submit 9 bits of good data and one error I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. If they fix the error and resubmit cool. If not I only have to fix one bit of data, a lot less work then doing all 10 myself. | | | | Tom. |
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