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OPEN CREDITS.

Please not! I want a "director" entry no matter whether the actual credit is director, directed by, un film de, mis en scène, Regie, Regisseur etc.

@Hal:

I agree and there is a way to do it. I think I have solved the puzzle.

@Rho:

I appreciate what you WANT. But you have to expand your horizons. I am not interested in Sound, particularly, but some users ARE and I have no right to say them nay. You similarly have no right to try and force your wishes on anybody else. If users want Set Decoration and we can figure out how to handle it then we should. Do I want to see full open credits<gasp>...hardly, but by the same token perhaps there is a user out there somewhere for whom the Accountants data is important and relevant or the Caterers or whomever.<fingers crossed>

Now relative to your comments about "foreign" language credits (foreign to whom?) I will admit that I have mixed feelings about that.

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Just like with cast type what you see.

How Open is Open? Interesting question. In theory, Open would mean list the crew data as you see it, and those that want caterers can add them.

In actuality, it is a bit more complex than taht, Iam toying with my solution to be sure it works as intended. It would NOT be totally open credits, however. It would be a cousin of what we have now, I have one concern that i am still noodling and that is. Some jobs could be in multiple areas. For example are Visual Effects their own area or are they a subset of Special Effects, or vice versa. Perhaps they are both part of the Art department for our purposes.<shrugs>

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Sounds like you have just taken the online out of the equation, hal and turned it into a strictly local option. Bad move. Suppose Ken has an interest in...Costume Design, as we know that other users do as well. If it's a local option they cannot easily share data. Sounds a bit silly me to me, one of our strengths is the Online database, now perhaps there should be an option for you to accept ONLY the crew data in which YOU have an interest, that sounds more logical.

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Sounds like you have just taken the online out of the equation, hal and turned it into a strictly local option. Bad move. Suppose Ken has an interest in...Costume Design, as we know that other users do as well. If it's a local option they cannot easily share data. Sounds a bit silly me to me, one of our strengths is the Online database, now perhaps there should be an option for you to accept ONLY the crew data in which YOU have an interest, that sounds more logical.

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That's not what I said at all.  I said for the main database retain the existing categories, e.g. Director, Production, Music, etc, and add a couple new ones, e.g., Makeup, Costumes.

For people who want more than that, give them the ability to do it locally.  That way they can enter the grips if that's what they want, but they would not be contributable to the Invleos main database.

For all fields (those for the main database and those only local), the ability to select which ones you want to display in the program and/or in your on-line collection would be a great feature.

Hopefully that's a little clearer.

I would like to include the 'joke' credits that are in the credits of the Naked Gun Movies

but thats only because they are funny and would like to be able to go back and read them for a laugh  something like that would only be able to be entered in an Open Credit situation (one such credit was the director, or some other crew members, Divorce Attorney)

hmmm, just had a thought while typing this, maybe I'll add these to my notes field so I have them....

-Agrare

I thought the poll results were clear... However, I've just noticed three no-votes against me trying to remove an "additional music" credit saying:

"He added music to the score, he is mentioned in the credits. Leave him in the list. Where do you draw the line? more than 5 minutes music? Maybe 10?"

"He contributed music to the original score, so he is a composer too."

"if he added music, leave him in the list"

I'm not sure what to do... Should I really start adding "composer" credits for every "additional music" credit that I see (believe me: there are more of them than you think), or am I correct in removing it?

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I'm not sure what to do... Should I really start adding "composer" credits for every "additional music" credit that I see (believe me: there are more of them than you think), or am I correct in removing it?

Well, "lucky" for you "the protector of the DB" is helping you out with a Yes-vote on your contribution of a release which I'm sure he does not own.

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Well, "lucky" for you "the protector of the DB" is helping you out with a Yes-vote on your contribution of a release which I'm sure he does not own.

Put it the other way, if i'm allowed to profile all the LOTR profiles. Why should you not vote on contributions that concern the credits that influence the Credit Lookup Tool?