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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
Correctly spelled and copied, it should read "The Comeback: The Complete FIRST ONLY Season"
"First" and "Only" are both all caps, and we don't use single quotes in the title field to mark bold printing, that's an exclusive to the overview field. Sounds correct to me, too. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You missed an option. The program doesn't have the ability to cope with BOLD characters at this time.
The Comeback: The Complete First 'ONLY' Season 
Skip Sorry, but we do not use quotes for bolding and italics in Titles or Editions....only in Overviews! And we use standard capitalization Rules for titles. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
And we use standard capitalization Rules for titles. I thought we only needed to apply capitalization rules if the whole title was written in full or small caps and not just single words.  | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
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And we use standard capitalization Rules for titles.
I thought we only needed to apply capitalization rules if the whole title was written in full or small caps and not just single words. Nope, you're thinking of Cast that are all in capitals, I believe. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | The words "FIRST ONLY" in this title are capitalized to emphazise that this is the FIRST and ONLY season of this TV series. Using lower case on these two words would render the statement meaningless. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
The words "FIRST ONLY" in this title are capitalized to emphazise that this is the FIRST and ONLY season of this TV series. Using lower case on these two words would render the statement meaningless. That's all well and good, but we apply standard capitalization Rules to titles. There's no exception for "emphasis". | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
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The words "FIRST ONLY" in this title are capitalized to emphazise that this is the FIRST and ONLY season of this TV series. Using lower case on these two words would render the statement meaningless.
That's all well and good, but we apply standard capitalization Rules to titles. There's no exception for "emphasis". Funny I can't seem to find anything in the rules for Titles about standard capitalization rules. The problem here is that her foot is covering the word first. Its like someone saying, this is the first, no scratch that, only season. Its like the reverse of There's Something More About Mary. That inserted a word in the title (and the way it was drawn on the cover shows that) this is taking a word out of the title (and that is also shown by the way the cover is 'drawn') -Agrare |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,745 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote:
The problem here is that her foot is covering the word first. Its like someone saying, this is the first, no scratch that, only season. That's exactly how I interpreted it. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules only tell us to "Check capitalization of the title" and I think this only relates to words where only the first letter is or is not capitalized and not to complete capitalized words. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote:
Funny I can't seem to find anything in the rules for Titles about standard capitalization rules.
-Agrare I agree. There is nothing in the rules that backs up Hal's assertion that capitalized words within a sentence must also be "standardized". | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here we go parsing the Rules again. Here's what athey say: Quoting the Rules Quote:
Check capitalization of the title.
Do not include quotes if they surround the entire title.
Include possessives if the front cover includes them, and if they are verifiably part of the title. If quotes surround the title in the credit block (generally on the back cover), check whether the possessive is within the quotes. In the absence of quotes to verify, check the font size used for the title on the front cover. Generally, possessives which use a significantly smaller font are not part of the title.
Possessive examples: "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride", John Carpenter's "The Thing". In each case, the portion within quotes is the title.
For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not. If we are checking for capitalization, just exactly what is it that you believe we are checking for other than standard capitlaization? The last section is an admittedly lame attempt to describe what standard capitalization rules are in the U.S. We have always applied standard capitalization rules to titles! You guys aren't suggesting that if a title is in all capitals on the DVD cover, that we should enter it in all capitals in DVDP. Please tell me you aren't proposing that! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote:
Funny I can't seem to find anything in the rules for Titles about standard capitalization rules. for non English titles the rules say: Quote:
For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not for English titles the rules say Quote:
For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not. Those are the standard capitalisation rules. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
We have always applied standard capitalization rules to titles! IMO, how I read the rule is that when a title is in ALL CAPS we apply standard capitalization rules and we do NOT capitalize joining words. There is NO mention of what to do when a word or words within a title that is NOT in ALL CAPS are capitalized. Do we also "standardize" those words as well? The rule is unclear on this matter and I think Gerri should make an appearance here and lay down the law...so to speak  Quote:
You guys aren't suggesting that if a title is in all capitals on the DVD cover, that we should enter it in all capitals in DVDP.
Please tell me you aren't proposing that! Of course not. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
You guys aren't suggesting that if a title is in all capitals on the DVD cover, that we should enter it in all capitals in DVDP.
Please tell me you aren't proposing that! No but if a title is already using standard capitalization rules for titles for all but one or two words, I think those words should be kept as they are. Everywhere else we only apply standard capitalization if it is all uppercase (at least, when the rules explicitly say to use standard capitalization rules they only say so for all capital) not if one word is being highlighted by capitalization. These same capitalization rules are also applied to all lower case titles (and cast listings, probably overviews but don't think I've ever seen an all lowercase overview) though I see nothing in the rules about doing that. For instance, should the title crazy/beautiful be entered as Crazy/Beautiful ? Its in the database under the later. I personally have not decided how I'd personally prefer these. But I'm leaning towards all lower case because it was obviously done that way for a reason. -Agrare |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Funny I can't seem to find anything in the rules for Titles about standard capitalization rules.
for non English titles the rules say:
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For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not
for English titles the rules say
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
Those are the standard capitalisation rules. actually those are a subset of the standard capitalization rules.... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
IMO, how I read the rule is that when a title is in ALL CAPS we apply standard capitalization rules and we do NOT capitalize joining words. That may be how you read it, but that's not what it actually says! It says nothing about the title being in all caps. The combination of the first bullet and the last bullet indicate to me that standard capitalization should be used for titles and like I said, that is always what we have done in the past. Admittedly, that is putting my own interpretation on it as well. You realize that people will now start going through their collections to find titles where part of the title is capitalized and part not. And they will look for titles where all is capitalized but part is in larger caps than other parts and claim that means the larger caps are caps and the smaller caps are lower case. This is just a bad precedent to set, IMHO.  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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