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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsurfeur51
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So what you meant to say was: There are many cases where end credits do not satisfy me.


OK, Martin, you are true 

And you, do you really like cases 4, 5,  7...  ?
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7/ When there is a spelling mistake on a role


No problem again - credited as now that the Rules allow for it and things are really starting to come together with agreements on common names (I've even had to use this on a DVD which was a series of 4 interviews and they mis-spelled one of the 4 interviewees names!)


I wrote about role, not name...
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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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So what you meant to say was: There are many cases where end credits do not satisfy me.


OK, Martin, you are true 

And you, do you really like cases 4, 5,  7...  ?

I am the truth? Thank you, but I am not the brother of Jezus...

To answer your question: No, I do not like the way a lot of the credits are made, but I also want to follow the rules as much as possible or else I could not contribute to the online database. And as I like to share information, I just have to swallow my personal preferences in a lot of cases.
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1/ When they are in order of appearance
2/ When they are in alphabetic order


Agree on those. I think it would be nice to have a "Top-billed (rank)" window beside the "Voice" and "Uncredited" check boxes.


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(I never use "credited as")


Why? 
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3/ When names or roles are capitalized


Follow the rules; use normal capitalisation



What is meant with normal capitalisation or as the rules state - use standard capitalization rules?

Should I use the capitalisation rules wich are defined for titles in the contribution rules (capitalise every word exept joining words) or should I use the capitalisation I learned in school for the english language (capitalise only first word, names and I)

Example:
Woman in Red Dress or Woman in red dress

Excuse me if this question sounds dumb for native speakers but I am not very familiar with english.

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I have no problem with this - just follow the Ruels;
He does not contribute. Thus, he does not need to follow any rule.

btw: He said he didn't like the rules and you answer that is no problem, he has just to follow the rules....
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So what you meant to say was: There are many cases where end credits do not satisfy me.


OK, Martin, you are true 

And you, do you really like cases 4, 5,  7...  ?


That is called personal preference and you CAN do that LOCALLY.

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3/ When names or roles are capitalized


Follow the rules; use normal capitalisation



What is meant with normal capitalisation or as the rules state - use standard capitalization rules?

Should I use the capitalisation rules wich are defined for titles in the contribution rules (capitalise every word exept joining words) or should I use the capitalisation I learned in school for the english language (capitalise only first word, names and I)

Example:
Woman in Red Dress or Woman in red dress.

Excuse me if this question sounds dumb for native speakers but I am not very familiar with english.

mfg Speedy


The way I've always done it and seen it done in the majority of cases is Woman in Red Dress. Whether that is technically correct with the rule I wouldn't care to try and guess these days. 
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That would be the intent, Nick, but I am with you otherwise, maybe the do-nothing users have a different thought. 

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(I never use "credited as")


Why? 


Two reasons:
1/ When an actor has a "credited as" enter, it is shown in different form in the list in dvdprofiler.

2/ I really have nothing to do to know how an actor (or an actress) is credited. The only important thing is to choose a common name, and I find very interesting the job which is done by users to elaborate such a list.
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So what you meant to say was: There are many cases where end credits do not satisfy me.


OK, Martin, you are true 

And you, do you really like cases 4, 5,  7...  ?


That is called personal preference and you CAN do that LOCALLY.

Skip


Gotta agree with Skip on this one.  I contribute based on the rules...I figure it is the least I can do...then 'fix' the cast list to be the way I prefer it.  It really doesn't take that much extra time to do.  I am seriously considering using James' method, however, as it will make it easier to recontribute if needed.
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Unicus:

That ius why i run parallel databases, it really doesn't take that much time once it's set up


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Gotta agree with Skip on this one.  I contribute based on the rules...I figure it is the least I can do...


I also agree, and now keep everything which doesn't follow the rules locally.

But what I can say is that the nearly 400 profiles I contributed (only first contributions, but 5 or 6) before there were comments requested on first contribution were quite all accepted and not changed after, except to add CoO. So they are probably not so bad.

Now, I will not write on comments that I follow the rule as sometimes I don't follow them. I am sure that if I lied, nobody would see it as my contributions are in french and I suppose people who accept contributions don't have the DVD to verify. But I refuse to do this and stopped contributing, though I think it is a loss for the database when nobody else contributes those titles.
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That is called personal preference and you CAN do that LOCALLY.



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I do not contribute any more
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Yves:

It is rusty as hell, but you might be amazed at my capabilities not just in French. I won't claim fluency any long, not after 30 odd years, but some basic comprehension in French and several other languages as well, which i studied during my college days back when we all lived in caves. But that's beside the point. 

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Gotta agree with Skip on this one.  I contribute based on the rules...I figure it is the least I can do...


I also agree, and now keep everything which doesn't follow the rules locally.

But what I can say is that the nearly 400 profiles I contributed (only first contributions, but 5 or 6) before there were comments requested on first contribution were quite all accepted and not changed after, except to add CoO. So they are probably not so bad.

Now, I will not write on comments that I follow the rule as sometimes I don't follow them. I am sure that if I lied, nobody would see it as my contributions are in french and I suppose people who accept contributions don't have the DVD to verify. But I refuse to do this and stopped contributing, though I think it is a loss for the database when nobody else contributes those titles.


Whatever works for you.  Nobody is required to contribute so I hold no animosity towards those that don't.

That being said, I honestly don't understand the problem.  I, as you, prefer the top billed actors to come first in my cast lists.  I also want to contribute.  To solve that problem I audit the title, in accordance with the rules, and contribute.  Once that is done, I run the opening credits again and move the top billed actors to the top and lock the profile down.

Unfortunately, that method prevents me from contributing again should something go wrong.  Because of that, I am going to adopt James' method...using a divider and listing both opening and closing credits...that way, if something goes wrong I can just copy the cast list, remove the extra cast, contribute and paste them back in.

Thanks, again, for the suggestion James. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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