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Do you get it, Donnie

40 want some form of Open credits. FORTY. (...)

And 46 want to keep the standardised roles.

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Standardized Rol;es are a proven FAILURE. Shoehorning to much data into the same roles. WORTHLESS

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Rho:

Standardized Rol;es are a proven FAILURE.

How can you prove this?

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Shoehorning to much data into the same roles. WORTHLESS

That's your opinion. I'm only interested in the standardised roles, mainly director, writing, producer, and maybe music.

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Gee whiz, rho. have you read anything I have said, look at VE, the data has NO MEANING because it's a standardized role and we are plugging a whole bunch of  crap in there. Same is true with virtually every other job. The lone exception that works is Director, the common credit actually appears to be Directed By, Director is relatively uncommon, but they both are the same thing and it is the only one that works. Eveerything else utter disaster.

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Gee whiz, rho. have you read anything I have said, look at VE, the data has NO MEANING because it's a standardized role and we are plugging a whole bunch of  crap in there. Same is true with virtually every other job. The lone exception that works is Director, the common credit actually appears to be Directed By, Director is relatively uncommon, but they both are the same thing and it is the only one that works. Eveerything else utter disaster.

I'm not interested in visuall effects. But I would still say the VE data in profiler in its current state is not worthless.

Beneath director also producer credits, writing credits (even though there are some funny discussions about OMB), music credits (score works better than songwriter), cinematography, and production design work very well. Of course this could be improved by additionally allowing the contribution of custom role names. But then I'm not interested in them.

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Well now let's see I'll give you Producer. But film editor we still have people who can't read and keep trying to put in Film Editor from the end credits when there is one in the Front End and the Rules says "Principal Editors listed when credited together", some users need remedial reading lessons. Sound you think that's clear, you think that data really is well defined with all the various jobs that are shoehorned into Standard Roles, that suffers from the same problem as VE. Writing is just a nightmare. Music works OK, not great, but OK. But overall standard roles are a failure for any users who want to be able to KNOW what job is being done by this individual, that's probably more important than linking to some or the reports issue.