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When I said serves no purpose that I can see I only meant that it being shown in the general info tab serves no purpose that I can tell. I know it is the primary key for the profile... but what purpose does showing it in the general tab have?

So you can verify that it matches your DVD?

YES, YES and once more YES. And this way you can see if you are contributing to a correct profile.

I just withdrew the contributions I had up doing this until a final decision is made... just as I said I would in the beginning of this thread.... just let me know what the official stance is on this and will go from there.

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As I said in the beginning of this thread... I was going by how I read the rules and when most disagreed with me I would wait for a response for you and do it however you want it done.

In your shoes, if most people disagreed with me, I would re-examine my stance and re-evaluate my thinking; and, invariably, go with the majority. Asking for a ruling is tantamount to saying "I don't care what everyone else says", and if that's the case, why ask?

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But if it is allowed I just don't want to have to hear it from others... getting insults and such as I had to endure here today. No differently then if you decide against it I wouldn't complain and throw out insults to others.

Let's get something straight here. For me personally, I don't think I've called you names. Insulted you? Probably.

Name calling is something very specific to me. Identifying certain behaviour and calling attention to it is not.
I have no idea if you are a selfish person or not; I know nothing about you.

However, when you come into a forum devoted to a user built database and state that you refuse to do something because you see no personal benefit, or because you want to continue to benefit from other people's work without doing anything yourself - then I view that behaviour as selfish. The act itself is a selfish one.
The most generous person in the world could do the exact same thing and I would still think it was selfish.

I am well aware of the fact that most users do as little as possible to advance or maintain our database. But, they have the good sense to not come into this forum and tell people about it. We forum attendees are the fanatics here. We're the most devoted, most invested members of the DVDProfiler community; so it goes without saying that we will give strong reactions to the things we feel passionate about.
Likewise, we come into this forum and ask questions because there is a very large and considerably knowledgeable user base here. So, why ask a question and then ignore the result. It's illogical. If I ask a question on something I don't understand, I don't ignore the answer just because it's not what I wanted to hear. That's illogical.

If I ever come into this forum and state that I don't want to do something because it won't benefit me, or I can't be bothered, feel free to call my actions selfish and inconsiderate - because that's exactly the behaviour I will be exhibiting. I can assure you that will never happen, but I give permission nonetheless.

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However, when you come into a forum devoted to a user built database and state that you refuse to do something because you see no personal benefit, or because you want to continue to benefit from other people's work without doing anything yourself.

Even if I don't agree with "The Wolfman" on this matter, his numbers:

Accepted Profile Contributions: 9133
Accepted Image Contributions: 1216

are  quite far from "benefit from other people's work without doing anything yourself".

I'm not, and have never said, that Pete never does anything for the community. On this issue, however, that is the case.
Don't come into this forum and say you won't do something because you can't be bothered and expect everyone to be okay with that.

Also, I don't care about contribution stats - I recently contributed 3,000 'colour' updates, hardly a big issue.
I know Pete does a lot. That's not the issue here. The issue is this one particular thread/issue.

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It is fine you don't agree with me... but calling me names... and yes I do still see it as calling me names... and putting my work and dedication (any of my work and dedication) in question is uncalled for.

Fine. We are never going to agree on this; as has happened in the past.

This is name calling: You are selfish and inconsiderate.

This is not: Your actions in this instance are selfish and inconsiderate.

One is calling attention to demonstrated or admitted behaviour the other is not. This may seem like splitting hairs and semantics, but it's a very important point for me. I would never dream of saying "You are a selfish and inconsiderate person" to someone, but I have no problem with pointing out that someone's actions are those things. Why? Because no one is 100% selfless or selfish; so to say 'you are selfish' would be inaccurate. Everyone has moments of both. It's how I was taught to use the English language.
And, as far as you know the moderators may have been asking for Mithi to stop telling me to 'put a cork in it' in an attempt to stop me saying what I have every right to say.

However, I felt very strongly that your stance on this was wrong and I had every right to express my frustration and anger. I didn't swear at you or threaten you (which many other users would have done). What I did was express how I perceived your actions; and I'm sorry if you can't take that kind of criticism, but that's really not my problem.

This may be a 'side peeve' for you, but it's anything but for me. I fully realise (as stated before) that you do a lot of work on the database. I've never called that into doubt - and if you think I have you are simply reading into my statements.
My issue is purely on your stance on this one issue: "So why would I add a new profile where I would probably be the only one or one of only very few people to have that profile to have to do all the updating and get little to no updates from the community?

In this one instance you took a selfish standpoint (based on your understanding of the rules); but despite the fact that Ken said you could create another profile. You didn't want to do the work because you would get nothing from it.

I'm sorry but that is a selfish act - you chose not to do something, despite the fact that others would benefit from it; and the reason was you personally would gain nothing.
You may feel that is calling you names; but it's not. It's calling your behaviour a name which is a totally different matter. You obviously do not think you've acted selfishly in this matter. So, we have reached an impasse, and this conversation is at an end.

And, as far as your contributions are concerned...they've all been seriously called into doubt by your admission that you don't care about EAN/UPC/Disc ID accuracy. How can anyone be confident that you are submitting anything to the correct profile ever again?
I personally will now check every contribution you make for accuracy, whereas before I had absolute confidence in everything you did. That outcome to this sorry affair is a very sad situation indeed.

I must say... I am done with this thread. Done discussing the entire situation.

Ken changed that function a long time ago... we no longer see red arrows that are given to us. They only bring posts to the attention of moderators... nothing more.